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Topic: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference

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gymvol

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SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« on: October 14, 2020, 01:52:29 PM »
I can say I told you so but........

Now we get to see or hear it from people who aren't disgruntled fans or NegaVols as you homers call us.

I still have to question a coach's decision to start a 5th year senior who is only better than a freshman QB on possibly the worst team in the conference.

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As we’ve said all week, it’s not totally on Guarantano, but being the veteran that he is, he didn’t exactly make things better during the implosion.

Outside of the ugly turnovers, Guarantano’s accuracy, particularly in the short to intermediate game, has once again been spotty this season. That’s something that Pro Football Focus keyed on as they ranked Guarantano as the 13th best quarterback (of 14) in the SEC this week.

The power rankings, written by Anthony Treash, ranked Guarantano ahead of only Ken Seals, Vanderbilt’s freshman quarterback. Here’s what they had to say.

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The biggest negative of Guarantano’s collegiate career has always been his accuracy, and this year has been no different. He has thrown a quarterback-fault incompletion on 18% of his throws this year, which is nearly 3.5 percentage points more than any of the quarterbacks on this list. Guarantano has also made a far higher rate of bad decisions — his 2.8% turnover-worthy play rate from 2019 ranked 25th in the FBS and has nearly doubled to start 2020. Most of those plays have stemmed from plays under duress and have impacted a pressured passing grade of 27.8 (lowest in SEC).



Looking past the the Georgia second half performance, Guarantano struggled for much of the game against South Carolina, failing to make several short throws. Things were better against Missouri as the Volunteers ran through the Tigers, but inconsistencies returned against Georgia. And to be clear, the Bulldogs are going to make a lot of quarterbacks look that way this year. That unit is the best in the country, far and away.

However, those numbers from PFF are tough to argue. Jeremy Pruitt reiterated that Guarantano gives his team the best chance to win on Monday. Brian Maurer and J.T. Shrout each saw time last season in relief of Guarantano, but each guy seems to be a good bit of distance away from getting playing time.

Tennessee has proven that they can handle the teams they’re supposed to handle, but they’re going to have to get more out of the quarterback position if they want to hang with Georgia and Alabama.

https://www.rockytoptalk.com/2020/10/14/21515670/sec-quarterback-power-rankings-pff-ranks-jarrett-guarantano-13th-tennessee-vols-football

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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2020, 03:10:35 PM »
I assume you're wanting me to respond.
As I said earlier....was not defending JG as much as defending Pruitt's decison making.
He's the one who see's the QB's practice everyday and he's spent his life coaching.It's his job on the line not someone making a judgement from the comfort of their living room reading internet chatter.
If he thinks JG gives them the best chance to win then I'll support his judgement as long as he's the HC.
Having said that I will not be at all surprised to see a change sometime in the next few games .

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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2020, 03:23:49 PM »
Quote from: roadvol on October 14, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
I assume you're wanting me to respond.
As I said earlier....was not defending JG as much as defending Pruitt's decison making.
He's the one who see's the QB's practice everyday and he's spent his life coaching.It's his job on the line not someone making a judgement from the comfort of their living room reading internet chatter.
If he thinks JG gives them the best chance to win then I'll support his judgement as long as he's the HC.
Having said that I will not be at all surprised to see a change sometime in the next few games .
I do not get as much info here in NEPA as I did in Tenn. But I suspect a lot has to do with very limited practice times for some of the QB's as well as very limited practice time with the WB's dues to COVID and other health issues. To think that this is a normal year and to expect the same is not logical and every team has faced different adversities.

Just guessing, I think they gave HB all the reps Sunday was to try and hurry him along the path to being ready to play at SEC level and all that entails.  

I would also suspect that JG is gone after this season.  
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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2020, 03:46:37 PM »

He better be gone he's been there five years.

Limited practice should mean a 5th year senior is way ahead of a walk on freshman or other under classmen and if he don't have it by now playing him more ain't gonna make him any better.

Saying he is the best chance of the VOLS wining is the same as telling the other quarterbacks you really suck and ain't worth a damn.

I look for Maurer and Shrout both to leave after this year they can play without having to sit out a year under the new rule. I'm sure there are coaches out there that are hoping they consider transferring to their program.
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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2020, 04:50:04 PM »
Quote from: roadvol on October 14, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
I assume you're wanting me to respond.
As I said earlier....was not defending JG as much as defending Pruitt's decison making.
He's the one who see's the QB's practice everyday and he's spent his life coaching.It's his job on the line not someone making a judgement from the comfort of their living room reading internet chatter.
If he thinks JG gives them the best chance to win then I'll support his judgement as long as he's the HC.
Having said that I will not be at all surprised to see a change sometime in the next few games .



Not bashing Pruitt here but, did you give Butch Jones the same benefit of the doubt?

Remember, the guy that played Justin Worley ( a statue in the pocket) in the zone read option offense, when everyone and their brother knew he was never going to keep the ball, only causing our RB a 2 second delay on getting downhill, and the opposing defense a 2 second head start upfield?  While Josh Dobbs was on the bench, because "he doesn't practice very well".

The same guy that started an NFL WR (Jalen Hurd) at RB in that same zone read offense at 6'4" 230 lbs, instead of running him downhill in a pro set or I-formation?

And, the same guy that while starting an NFL WR at RB, and had the NFL Rookie of the Year (Alvin Kamara) on the pine behind the WR playing running back?

Point it, these coaches aren't impervious despite coaching being their 'expertise'.  They have blind spots, obviously.  Butch Jones was a damned fool, and I knew it from the get go when he was trying to stuff Worley and Hurd into a Zone Read, instead of tailoring the offense to suit his personnel. 

Maybe Pruitt has a blind spot at QB?

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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2020, 06:09:21 PM »
FYI...
For those that dont know...
The NCAA has previously announced that this year does not count toward an eligibility year.

5th yr seniors can return, no need to redshirt anyone as this year wont count against an eligible year.
All seniors will have the option of returning next year.
4 years from now you'll see a lot of players breaking career records since they will be able to play 5 full seasons.
2020 is indeed a strange year.
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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2020, 08:40:17 PM »
Quote from: roadvol on October 14, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
I assume you're wanting me to respond.
As I said earlier....was not defending JG as much as defending Pruitt's decison making.
He's the one who see's the QB's practice everyday and he's spent his life coaching.It's his job on the line not someone making a judgement from the comfort of their living room reading internet chatter.
If he thinks JG gives them the best chance to win then I'll support his judgement as long as he's the HC.
Having said that I will not be at all surprised to see a change sometime in the next few games .
Joe Biden has spent his whole life in politics but doesn’t know Jack sh.. Pruitt knows a lot of football but he has mismanaged the QB position. 
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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2020, 10:00:30 AM »
Just curious...why aren't you coaching at some SC school since you know more than Pruitt and I doubt you've been to practice.....amazing.
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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2020, 10:35:33 AM »
Quote from: roadvol on October 15, 2020, 10:00:30 AM
Just curious...why aren't you coaching at some SC school since you know more than Pruitt and I doubt you've been to practice.....amazing.


It would be nice if you'd ever figure out how to use the "quote" function so we could know who you are addressing.

It's the button next to reply and it is labelled as "Quote".
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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2020, 12:38:28 PM »
Now I'm really impressed...you not only know more than the UT coaching staff but you're also Computer Geek  advising on how to post.....
We have a genius in our midst.
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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2020, 12:42:13 PM »
Quote from: roadvol on October 15, 2020, 12:38:28 PM
Now I'm really impressed...you not only know more than the UT coaching staff but you're also Computer Geek  advising on how to post.....
We have a genius in our midst.


Woadie got him feewins' hurt.

*sniffle*
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2020, 01:51:10 PM »
Not at all.Feelings aren't hurt , just amused at your expertise in so many subjects..  You seem to be the one who gets his panties in a wad anytime anyone disagrees with you.
I try to stay away from resorting to immature posts and using juvenile names of people I don't agree with.
I thought you were  better than this ......Woadie got him feewins' hurt.
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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2020, 02:11:47 PM »
Quote from: roadvol on October 15, 2020, 01:51:10 PM
Not at all.Feelings aren't hurt , just amused at your expertise in so many subjects..  You seem to be the one who gets his panties in a wad anytime anyone disagrees with you.
I try to stay away from resorting to immature posts and using juvenile names of people I don't agree with.
I thought you were  better than this ......Woadie got him feewins' hurt.

You did.  No need to get all upset again.

You don't read very well, either.  Need some lessons there, too?


First sentence of my post  "knowing more than Coach Pruitt according to road":

Not bashing Pruitt here

Last sentence of my post "knowing more than Coach Pruitt according to road":

Maybe Pruitt has a blind spot at QB?

Notice, one is not indicative of Pruitt at all, and one is posing a question (that means "I don't know").

As for Butch Jones, I laid out a well reasoned case of why, and how he was a complete failure.  And, the entire point of the post anyway, was 'Just because he is our coach, doesn't make him perfect'.  My case was made.

Now, since you completely misjudged the intent of my post (not sure how), and wanted to be rude, you got rude and juvenile in return.

Ole fuzz has you pegged pretty well.  Easy to rattle, and of your own doing.

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Re: SEC QB Power Rankings: PFF Ranks Jarrett Guarantano 13th in Conference
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2020, 03:18:43 PM »

If Pruitt lets JG come back to play one more year you can bet on it and take it to the bank he will not be coaching at UT for very long.  And Fulmer may just be shown the door with him if it happens.

It's not just here alumni and fans everywhere are sick and tired of mediocrity from a QB and a coach who keeps saying he's our best chance of winning when most everyone else sees different except the homers and sunshine pumpers.

That's like Fulmer after ever loss saying "We're gonna watch the film and work like heck to get better". But how did that work out? I can also remember Phat Phil after one loss where so many tackles were missed when asked about it he said "We practiced tackling about 15 minutes this week".

Roadie you remind of the democrats who thought just because they were stupid enough to elect Obama who had never been anything other than a community organizer ( paid instigator ) that once he become president it automatically made him the smartest guy that ever was.

That's the way your are with a coach just because someone is stupid enough to give a anyone a job as HC doesn't automatically raise their football IQ level or make them a better judge of talent at any position.
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