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DunkingDan

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Re: Jeremy Pruitt Saying All the Wrong Things Following Loss
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2020, 10:02:17 PM »
Quote from: gymvol on November 24, 2020, 09:50:54 PM
Well if you want to talk history lets go back to Gen Neyland it didn't take him 4 or 5 years or even 3 he turned it around immediately because he knew how to coach and get the best out of his players.

If you want to talk about Majors lack of success when he first came to UT he didn't have the two assistants who had helped him to his fame Jimmy Johnson and Jackie Sherrill. It showed real quick when he came to UT without them who the real winners were.

He also hired the likes of Bill Pace who was former HC and loser at Vanderbilt

For people who think Tennessee is and always has been a football power house winning championships you need to check you history we haven't been since Gen Neyland.

Since 1965 we've won SEVEN SEC championships and haven't won one in over twenty years the last in 1998. One national championship since 1951 that's ONE mind you in 70 years.

Do I think Pruitt is going to be fired? No I don't but that doesn't keep me from pointing not only his moronic statements and illogical decisions but also the asinine decisions of those supposedly in charge of the University of Tennessee.

If you're willing to accept less than mediocrity and can make excuses for it then I feel sorry for you. But me I have never accepted mediocrity or make excuses for failure and never intend to.
National championshipsEdit

Tennessee has won six national championships from NCAA-designated major selectors.[5]:112–115 Tennessee claims all six national championships.[6][7] The Associated Press has acknowledged Tennessee as National Champions twice, but the #1 Vols lost in the Sugar Bowl in 1951 after being named AP and UPI National Champions due to the polls being conducted before the bowl season prior to 1968 and 1974 respectively. The 1938 and 1950 championships, while not AP titles, were recognized by a majority and a plurality of overall selectors/polls, respectively.[8][9] Tennessee has also been awarded national championships by various organizations in eight additional years of 1914 1927, 1928, 1931, 1939, 1956, 1985, and 1989, though the school claims none.[10]

There is so many differences in so many factors relating to the game from Neylands era to now we probably would miss discussing them rationally, little alone being able to name them.
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Re: Jeremy Pruitt Saying All the Wrong Things Following Loss
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2020, 10:04:48 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 24, 2020, 09:59:08 PM
On Thanksgiving in 2004, Tennessee held the all-time series lead against the Gators, 19-15.  Four games is a decent cushion. 
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Fast-forward to 2020.
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The all-time series is now 29-20, Florida.  Jesus Christ!  How'd that happen??

roadvol hanging on to shitty coaches is how.  Next year he will turn it around in perpetuity.  
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Re: Jeremy Pruitt Saying All the Wrong Things Following Loss
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2020, 10:10:04 PM »
Quote from: roadvol on November 24, 2020, 09:44:51 PM
awinantl...You've gone strangely quiet since I promoted you to AD...what's your solution without bankrupting the athletic department.
Lol ..... well one thing TN is awful I mean AWFUL at is the coaching search game... we gotta sneaky and slimy. If I were the AD I wouldn’t do anything unless I had one of my top 3 targets lined up behind the scenes...... anything short of that and we’re just trying to catch lightning in a bottle once again. Making assumptions we’ll finish 3-7 with 2 more beat downs coming our way so enthusiasm going into next year will be pretty dang low. So with a new coach who generates excitement and no attendance restrictions next year hopefully a significant increase in revenue occurs and softens the blow of 2020 and buyouts. Furthermore due to Covid there won’t be nearly as many competitors looking for coaches this year ...... it’s a buyers market and maybe just once we get the guy we really want. 
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Re: Jeremy Pruitt Saying All the Wrong Things Following Loss
« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2020, 10:24:59 PM »
Quote from: awinatl on November 24, 2020, 10:10:04 PM
Lol ..... well one thing TN is awful I mean AWFUL at is the coaching search game... we gotta sneaky and slimy. If I were the AD I wouldn’t do anything unless I had one of my top 3 targets lined up behind the scenes...... anything short of that and we’re just trying to catch lightning in a bottle once again. Making assumptions we’ll finish 3-7 with 2 more beat downs coming our way so enthusiasm going into next year will be pretty dang low. So with a new coach who generates excitement and no attendance restrictions next year hopefully a significant increase in revenue occurs and softens the blow of 2020 and buyouts. Furthermore due to Covid there won’t be nearly as many competitors looking for coaches this year ...... it’s a buyers market and maybe just once we get the guy we really want.
I do agree on one point.UT has never had a plan in place when they've fired a coach since Fuller was fired.
Pure idiocy!
I don't agree on another...quality coaches on the market will be at a minimum next season.It will be a sellers market.
UTAD would have to take a mortgage on all the other sports to pay for a quality coach.








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Re: Jeremy Pruitt Saying All the Wrong Things Following Loss
« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2020, 10:32:31 PM »
Should've hired Jon Gruden....

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« Reply #47 on: November 24, 2020, 10:42:53 PM »
Quote from: roadvol on November 24, 2020, 10:35:27 AM
Gym or anyone....How long should it take for a coach to turn a program around from the dumpster fire that Pruitt inherited?
A straight forward question for the critics.
2 years?
3 years
4 years
More?
Less?
I would think you should normally get 4 years.  I think the issues this year are obviously tied to poor QB play, and that does fall on Pruitt and his staff that they have been unable to develop JG over 3 years, and have not brought in an adequate replacement.  I think this season is lost, so they might as well go with Bailey and give him some experience.  As bad as everyone likes to trash JG, with the exception of Bailey's late drive against Auburn, none of the alternatives have looked very good when given a chance.  
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« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2020, 11:10:48 PM »
Quote from: HK_Vol on November 24, 2020, 10:32:31 PM
Should've hired Jon Gruden....
Yes 2 or 3 times !! 
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« Reply #49 on: November 25, 2020, 11:08:44 AM »
Quote from: DunkingDan on November 24, 2020, 10:02:17 PM
National championshipsEdit

Tennessee has won six national championships from NCAA-designated major selectors.[5]:112–115 Tennessee claims all six national championships.[6][7] The Associated Press has acknowledged Tennessee as National Champions twice, but the #1 Vols lost in the Sugar Bowl in 1951 after being named AP and UPI National Champions due to the polls being conducted before the bowl season prior to 1968 and 1974 respectively. The 1938 and 1950 championships, while not AP titles, were recognized by a majority and a plurality of overall selectors/polls, respectively.[8][9] Tennessee has also been awarded national championships by various organizations in eight additional years of 1914 1927, 1928, 1931, 1939, 1956, 1985, and 1989, though the school claims none.[10]

There is so many differences in so many factors relating to the game from Neylands era to now we probably would miss discussing them rationally, little alone being able to name them.


The post was about things Pruitt should not have said you and others brought Majors with UT history into the conversation.

I just updated it to show since Neyland our history as a championship football program isn't there.

We're not even a winning program in the past twenty years because of the continual hiring of coaches like Pruitt extending their contracts undeservedly then having to pay through the nose to get rid of them

Anyone who managed a business like this would have been fired years ago or would have been bankrupt and the stock holders would not be making lame excuses for their failures.
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Re: Jeremy Pruitt Saying All the Wrong Things Following Loss
« Reply #50 on: November 25, 2020, 11:18:57 AM »
Quote from: roadvol on November 24, 2020, 10:24:59 PM
I do agree on one point.UT has never had a plan in place when they've fired a coach since Fuller was fired.
Pure idiocy!
I don't agree on another...quality coaches on the market will be at a minimum next season.It will be a sellers market.
UTAD would have to take a mortgage on all the other sports to pay for a quality coach.











Get the Haslam family and Charlie Ergen from Dish Network to pony up the cash they were the big money behind bringing Fulmer on as AD allowing him to hire Pruitt.

It's all tax deductible in 2020 there is no limit on the donation being deductible so now is the time.

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« Reply #51 on: November 25, 2020, 03:17:57 PM »
Quote from: gymvol on November 25, 2020, 11:08:44 AM

The post was about things Pruitt should not have said you and others brought Majors with UT history into the conversation.

I just updated it to show since Neyland our history as a championship football program isn't there.

We're not even a winning program in the past twenty years because of the continual hiring of coaches like Pruitt extending their contracts undeservedly then having to pay through the nose to get rid of them

Anyone who managed a business like this would have been fired years ago or would have been bankrupt and the stock holders would not be making lame excuses for their failures.
Not to change the subject but Bama claims a lot of titles from many sources.

I am not going to argue if Pruitt is or is not the man. I do have questions but due to circumstances beyond his control I have to side with wait till next year. Additionally the finances make it extremely difficult to do as well.
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« Reply #53 on: November 26, 2020, 03:36:00 PM »
5 straight losses, all by double-digits.
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Re: Jeremy Pruitt Saying All the Wrong Things Following Loss
« Reply #54 on: November 27, 2020, 02:56:22 AM »
108-14 in the last five second halves.
That's 22-3 per game.

Basically, if Tennessee isn't ahead by 21 points at halftime, I expect to lose.

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