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Topic: Top 150 HCs - SEC only

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ALA2262

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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2019, 02:04:44 PM »
Why is Jackie Sherrill on the list? He was 74-76-2 at Mississippi State.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/jackie-sherrill-1.html

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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2019, 08:47:43 PM »
Why is Jackie Sherrill on the list? He was 74-76-2 at Mississippi State.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/jackie-sherrill-1.html
Probably because the list of HCs with 70+ wins at MSU looks like this:
Jackie Sherrill








Context, man!  MSU has had 2 consensus all-americans.  Ever.  Alabama had 5 just last year.  
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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2019, 08:51:50 PM »
I think Pat Dye was a truly great coach...and he cheated like hell, probably the whole way.
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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2019, 09:59:01 PM »
Probably because the list of HCs with 70+ wins at MSU looks like this:
Jackie Sherrill








Context, man!  MSU has had 2 consensus all-americans.  Ever.  Alabama had 5 just last year. 

Is this why there is no Kentucky coach on the list? Their only coach with 60 wins was already on the list at #1. SIXTY TWO years later and STILL their All-Time winningest coach! And did it in only EIGHT years! Stoops has 43 in seven years playing 1-2 games more per year. Will take him three more years to reach 60.

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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2019, 11:13:32 AM »
The divide between the haves and the have-nots in college football is akin to it in real life.  
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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2019, 01:31:40 PM »
Stoops at UK is doing pretty well IMHO.  I thought they might fall off to 4-8 this season.  They did lose to Tenn though.

But, yeah, for him to be still below their all timer is interesting.

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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2019, 01:56:24 PM »
The divide between the haves and the have-nots in college football is akin to it in real life. 
i think it is safe for you and I to say that Bryant and Spurrier had it. Coach Bryant was on record as saying if Uf ever got a coach they were going to be a "tough out" with all the talent in that State. They sure as hell were when they got Spurrier.

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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2019, 06:35:10 PM »
I thought Frank Thomas played baseball, but he did some great stuff at Alabama too, and I bet a lot of folks never heard of him.

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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2019, 12:11:31 AM »
Ask even a big fan to name a HC pre-WWII, and they'll say Heisman, Rockne.....maybe Stagg.  That's probably it.  Neyland if they're an SECer.  But there's Pop Warner, Leahy, Camp, Yost, THOMAS, Crisler, Wade,etc.....
If you told someone Vanderbilt had a HC that won about 200 out of 250 games, they wouldn't buy it.  But it happened, just way the hell back in the day.
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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2019, 01:19:57 PM »
Ask even a big fan to name a HC pre-WWII, and they'll say Heisman, Rockne.....maybe Stagg.  That's probably it.  Neyland if they're an SECer.  But there's Pop Warner, Leahy, Camp, Yost, THOMAS, Crisler, Wade,etc.....
If you told someone Vanderbilt had a HC that won about 200 out of 250 games, they wouldn't buy it.  But it happened, just way the hell back in the day.
Most don't realize that All-Time means ALL-TIME.

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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2019, 05:51:35 PM »
When did that happen?

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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2020, 11:29:54 PM »
1904-1934
Dan McGugin
197-55-19
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In half of his 30 seasons at Vandy, the Commodores lost 0 or 1 games.
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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2020, 11:55:52 PM »
I'd put Neyland under Saban. You have to account for the 2 lengthy absences he took in order to serve his country.  Take those away
and he might even be above Saban and Bryant.  

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Re: Top 150 HCs - SEC only
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2020, 10:05:15 AM »
Spurrier was on a whole different level than Dooley. 

Spurrier > Dooley by a country mile. 

As a Vol fan. 

Fulmer > Majors

 

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