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Topic: SEC 3 Perma-Rivals Revealed (and now the other 12, too!)

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jgvol

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Re: SEC 3 Perma-Rivals Revealed (and now the other 12, too!)
« Reply #70 on: October 06, 2025, 02:31:13 PM »
Let's get one thing straight.  On a college football board, slinging shit is always more fun. 

Don't act like you didn't try to defend the picks just a few posts later and say that Vandy and Kentucky were harder than Florida.  We can dig up those receipts too.
   Vandy is ranked -- FLorida is not.  Currently, Vandy is a better team.  There's your receipt.  No one ever said Kentucky was, a team that is also a UF perma-rival (trash).

I think it was discussed, multiple times by various parties, that it was questionable why out of all the rivalries UF/UT did not make the cut while somewhat lesser rivals did.  And given the UF/UT record over the last 20 or so years, I think I'd be furious if I were a UT fan that you couldn't scratch back some of that lopsided record vs Florida, while it looks like UT is trending up and Florida is at best treading water, and possibly staring down another decade of mediocrity.   The "lesser" rivals aren't "lesser".  They just are mostly doormats, but they are our doormats -- for a century and change.  I clearly said I'd rather have Florida, so it was vaguely discussed, but traditionally --- Vandy and KY make perfect sense.  You Johnny Come Lately SWC/BIG 12/BIG 8 infiltrators have much to learn.

And, FTR -- I misinterpreted one of OAM's posts -- this one:


"Tennessee got off easy in any and every era."

So that was my bad, but he continues to harp on our cake rivals --- so I keep gassing him up, because he's a douche'.  Don't align yourself with a douche', Gig'em --- it's unbecoming.

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Re: SEC 3 Perma-Rivals Revealed (and now the other 12, too!)
« Reply #71 on: October 06, 2025, 02:32:03 PM »
So you're John Kerry then?  A big, fat flip-flopper!!!

No flip flop, good sir.  I've always thought you were Dumb AF.

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« Reply #72 on: October 06, 2025, 03:01:51 PM »
There's that SECSECSEC vitriol!

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« Reply #73 on: October 06, 2025, 03:05:46 PM »
And, FTR -- I misinterpreted one of OAM's posts -- this one:


"Tennessee got off easy in any and every era."

So that was my bad, but he continues to harp on our cake rivals --- so I keep gassing him up, because he's a douche'.  Don't align yourself with a douche', Gig'em --- it's unbecoming.
I disagree with OAM on a lot of stuff, but sometimes he's like a stopped clock....sooner or later he'll be right (just not twice a day)...LOL.  

The "any and every era" I took as mere trash talk, because I'm not sure what else to make of it in in the divisional era (both UF and UT played in the east division so they should have had common opponents).  


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Re: SEC 3 Perma-Rivals Revealed (and now the other 12, too!)
« Reply #74 on: October 06, 2025, 05:02:53 PM »
I disagree with OAM on a lot of stuff, but sometimes he's like a stopped clock....sooner or later he'll be right (just not twice a day)...LOL. 

The "any and every era" I took as mere trash talk, because I'm not sure what else to make of it in in the divisional era (both UF and UT played in the east division so they should have had common opponents). 



This is true ^^^.  And we had the most difficult SEC WEST crossover perma-rival for 33 years, but Florida man probably doesn't want to talk about that.  Only that we got 2 cupcakes this time.

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« Reply #75 on: October 06, 2025, 09:31:35 PM »
At least Bama was a rival of yours.  You all hijacked the rest of the conference and invented all the other "rivalries" besides UGA-AU.

And I'd much rather be a douche than whatever you are.  You and your friend Dan can crawl back into your shithole cesspool at your earliest convenience.

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Re: SEC 3 Perma-Rivals Revealed (and now the other 12, too!)
« Reply #76 on: October 06, 2025, 09:59:10 PM »
At least Bama was a rival of yours.  You all hijacked the rest of the conference and invented all the other "rivalries" besides UGA-AU.

And I'd much rather be a douche than whatever you are.  You and your friend Dan can crawl back into your shithole cesspool at your earliest convenience.




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« Reply #77 on: October 07, 2025, 11:07:05 AM »
Some of the proposed annual rivals that circulated on the internet the last few years as possible solutions to the current conference configuration were more to my liking.  However, I don't recall each and every team's draw, and it's possible fans of some other teams wouldn't have been happy with those.

This worked out "okay" for us.  Not great, but not bad.  If it were up to me, I'd have kept Ole Miss, Florida, and either of the Alabama schools.  Alternatively, I'd be just about as okay with Ole Miss and both Alabama schools, dropping Florida.  

Ole Miss needs no explanation.  

Florida won't pass mustard for a lot of older fans, and very young fans probably don't feel the same about that game as I do, but for my age group, Florida is a real thing, even though we know the SEC contrived it in 1992.  But I was 13 and now it's hard to remember before that when we didn't play them every year.  The Florida game has generally been such a great barometer of what the team is in a given year, and whether both teams are good, bad, or uneven, many of the games have been memorable.  

LSU and Auburn is also something of a "new" thing, but for fans no older than myself, AU has basically been there forever, and however memorable the LSU/UF games are, multiply that x2 or x3 for the AU game.  Alabama is a team that we've always played, there's no question about the history there, and of course, they are historically so good that it's one of games you really look forward to.  Bama/LSU is a marquee game for fans of all ages, far as I can tell.  

Now, I fully expected to get A&M, because it's the kind of thing the conference thinks we would want.  And, I have to say, I'm not really against that.  Though I personally don't care about playing A&M every year, many LSU fans remember the old ooc ongoing series and have found them to be a good addition to our schedule in recent years.  I'm meh on the whole thing, but it's important to note that I'm not cold to the idea.  I understand the history, but it is ooc history, and this is about locking in conference history, not a fun ooc opponent.  Nevertheless, history in some fashion is there, and the geography works, so A&M was both expected, and an acceptable addition to Ole Miss.  

Arkansas is the one that really disappoints me.  Nobody I know cares anything about Arkansas, or ever has.  They are well below the wish-list toppers of Alabama, Auburn, and Florida.  Either of those three would've been preferable to Arkansas.  That's one I hope is part of the "revisit" in 4 years.  

Competitively, seems like Ole Miss, Arkansas, and A&M is a favorable draw.  Whether that amounts to anything for us, I don't know, I doubt it.  But from a fan wish-list perspective.....it's okay.  

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« Reply #78 on: October 07, 2025, 11:16:34 AM »
Some of the proposed annual rivals that circulated on the internet the last few years as possible solutions to the current conference configuration were more to my liking.  However, I don't recall each and every team's draw, and it's possible fans of some other teams wouldn't have been happy with those.

This worked out "okay" for us.  Not great, but not bad.  If it were up to me, I'd have kept Ole Miss, Florida, and either of the Alabama schools.  Alternatively, I'd be just about as okay with Ole Miss and both Alabama schools, dropping Florida. 

Ole Miss needs no explanation. 

Florida won't pass mustard for a lot of older fans, and very young fans probably don't feel the same about that game as I do, but for my age group, Florida is a real thing, even though we know the SEC contrived it in 1992.  But I was 13 and now it's hard to remember before that when we didn't play them every year.  The Florida game has generally been such a great barometer of what the team is in a given year, and whether both teams are good, bad, or uneven, many of the games have been memorable. 

LSU and Auburn is also something of a "new" thing, but for fans no older than myself, AU has basically been there forever, and however memorable the LSU/UF games are, multiply that x2 or x3 for the AU game.  Alabama is a team that we've always played, there's no question about the history there, and of course, they are historically so good that it's one of games you really look forward to.  Bama/LSU is a marquee game for fans of all ages, far as I can tell. 

Now, I fully expected to get A&M, because it's the kind of thing the conference thinks we would want.  And, I have to say, I'm not really against that.  Though I personally don't care about playing A&M every year, many LSU fans remember the old ooc ongoing series and have found them to be a good addition to our schedule in recent years.  I'm meh on the whole thing, but it's important to note that I'm not cold to the idea.  I understand the history, but it is ooc history, and this is about locking in conference history, not a fun ooc opponent.  Nevertheless, history in some fashion is there, and the geography works, so A&M was both expected, and an acceptable addition to Ole Miss. 

Arkansas is the one that really disappoints me.  Nobody I know cares anything about Arkansas, or ever has.  They are well below the wish-list toppers of Alabama, Auburn, and Florida.  Either of those three would've been preferable to Arkansas.  That's one I hope is part of the "revisit" in 4 years. 

Competitively, seems like Ole Miss, Arkansas, and A&M is a favorable draw.  Whether that amounts to anything for us, I don't know, I doubt it.  But from a fan wish-list perspective.....it's okay. 

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« Reply #79 on: October 07, 2025, 01:42:16 PM »
Welcome Back!  We missed you.


One thing about the rivalries, even if it doesn't make a lot of sense to you, is that there is a huge contingent of A&M fans who do in fact view LSU as a rival because we did play a lot of games in the 70's/80's/90's and earlier (first game 1899!)  In fact, LSU and A&M have played 63 total games, and only the last 13 have been a conference game.  Curiously, a good number of the games were played in Baton Rouge for some reason so there are 40 games played in BR, 20 in CS, and 3 neutral.  

Now I get it that you never really viewed A&M as much as a fan, but the last game we played before resuming was 1995, and the next game we played was 2011.  By my math, you were about 14 years old the last time we played, and over 30 by the time we resumed.  Of course you don't see us as a rival, there was nothing there for 16 years, and then we lost the first 7 games when we resumed play.  Just like right now we have absolutely dominated Arkansas in the SEC conference play, hardly any Aggie wants to keep that game. We stopped playing them on a regular basis in 1991 or 1992, way before my time, and didn't start playing them again until 2009.  We're 12-1 vs Arkasnas in the SEC, better than any other team we've played more than twice.  

So all this to say that even if you don't like having A&M as a semi-permanent opponents, who would you then pair A&M up with that makes sense for A&M?  OU?  meh, I don't think either party cares much for that.  Too much Big 12 bad blood.  Miss State?  Ole Miss?  Nobody else makes much sense.  

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« Reply #80 on: October 07, 2025, 03:47:13 PM »
. . . So all this to say that even if you don't like having A&M as a semi-permanent opponents, who would you then pair A&M up with that makes sense for A&M?  OU?  meh, I don't think either party cares much for that.  Too much Big 12 bad blood.  Miss State?  Ole Miss?  Nobody else makes much sense.
FWIW, a lot of OU fans would have rather had A&M than either Mizzou or Ole Miss.

For reasons I can't quite remember, there was a lot of "expert" opinion on why we wouldn't get A&M. Maybe it was because A&M already had its dance card filled, with LSU taking the last slot.

If the bad blood you mention is about A&M leaving the Big 12, I don't think OU fans have much, if any, over that. OU was perfectly willing to leave the Big 12 and join an expanded Pac-12. I can understand if A&M fans have bad blood over the 2003 game, though.
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« Reply #81 on: October 07, 2025, 11:44:28 PM »
Eh, more like bad blood in that OU regularly kicked our asses. Truthfully, we were totally uncompetitive with OU the last 10 years of the XII. I really don’t feel too bad about it though because they pretty much kicked everyone’s asses from 2000-2018 or whenever. They may not be done yet. 

At least with LSU we’ve been much more competitive, winning all the home games since 2018 and losing a couple very close ones in BR. 


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« Reply #82 on: October 08, 2025, 01:09:31 AM »
As a kid, I'd get those Classic-brand draft pick cards, in their college uniforms and A&M-LSU just LOOKED cool on the same field.

I have no other reason for them to play than that, lol.
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Re: SEC 3 Perma-Rivals Revealed (and now the other 12, too!)
« Reply #83 on: October 08, 2025, 09:52:30 AM »
Welcome Back!  We missed you.


One thing about the rivalries, even if it doesn't make a lot of sense to you, is that there is a huge contingent of A&M fans who do in fact view LSU as a rival because we did play a lot of games in the 70's/80's/90's and earlier (first game 1899!)  In fact, LSU and A&M have played 63 total games, and only the last 13 have been a conference game.  Curiously, a good number of the games were played in Baton Rouge for some reason so there are 40 games played in BR, 20 in CS, and 3 neutral. 

Now I get it that you never really viewed A&M as much as a fan, but the last game we played before resuming was 1995, and the next game we played was 2011.  By my math, you were about 14 years old the last time we played, and over 30 by the time we resumed.  Of course you don't see us as a rival, there was nothing there for 16 years, and then we lost the first 7 games when we resumed play.  Just like right now we have absolutely dominated Arkansas in the SEC conference play, hardly any Aggie wants to keep that game. We stopped playing them on a regular basis in 1991 or 1992, way before my time, and didn't start playing them again until 2009.  We're 12-1 vs Arkasnas in the SEC, better than any other team we've played more than twice. 

So all this to say that even if you don't like having A&M as a semi-permanent opponents, who would you then pair A&M up with that makes sense for A&M?  OU?  meh, I don't think either party cares much for that.  Too much Big 12 bad blood.  Miss State?  Ole Miss?  Nobody else makes much sense. 

Yeah, I get that.  If aTm'ers have a large contingent that want LSU, that obviously has to factor as much as what LSU wants.  And to reiterate, I think a lot of LSU fans are happy with A&M, and I'm okay with it.  Just because they're below Alabama, Auburn, and Florida on my list doesn't mean they're not a preferred team.  I'm just noting that for my money, I'd take either of those three before A&M.  Which would've been possible without the Arkansas addition.  

What I try to remember is that in any given year, we'll probably get 1 or 2 out of Alabama, Auburn, and Florida, and it's not like it we'll never be playing any of them.  

 

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