header pic

The SEC Forum at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: Maroon Problem

 (Read 8323 times)

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 20823
  • Liked:
Maroon Problem
« on: May 18, 2022, 07:43:05 PM »
This is an unchecked MAJOR problem for the SEC, with the expansion happening.

The SEC West already has Alabama, MSU, and Arkansas wearing maroon and white.  Adding Oklahoma makes 4 such teams.

This is an outrage!!!
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

just1hog

  • Walk On
  • *
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 46
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2022, 06:45:56 AM »
Arkansas colors are Cardinal and White. Thank you very much! :93:

Gigem

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 2846
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2022, 08:32:26 AM »
Aren’t you forgetting somebody?  

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 20823
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2022, 07:03:58 PM »
Yeah, see, exactly - there's so many, I forgot the Johnny-come-lately.  So out of 8 western teams, like 17 of them wear maroon!!!
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

ALA2262

  • Player
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 607
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2022, 09:58:24 AM »
I believe you will be concerned about more than their colors when Alabama is moved to the East. :)

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 79839
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2022, 10:14:57 AM »
Eh, we're 1-0 against Bama in recent memory.

ALA2262

  • Player
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 607
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2022, 03:36:15 PM »
Uh, didn't see you in the thread or I would have made it clear I was replying to the OP. But since you chimed in, we are talking about H/H every other year and not 6 of the most recent 7 games being played in the State of Georgia. All 7 of which you lost.

https://stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/opp-opp.pl?start=2008&end=2021&team1=Georgia&team2=Alabama
« Last Edit: May 30, 2022, 04:03:27 PM by ALA2262 »

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 79839
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2022, 04:04:08 PM »
I know, I was obviously kidding around.

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 20823
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2022, 04:19:16 PM »
I believe you will be concerned about more than their colors when Alabama is moved to the East. :)
The future SEC East would be too strong.  The strength of one division over the other is cyclical.  The East dominated early in the SECCG era, and the West has now dominated for an even longer stretch.  But Saban will leave, Florida will rise back up, Tennessee will matter once again, etc.
.
If you went back to 1993 and told someone Alabama and Auburn would wind up in the East, they'd scoff and tell you that many top programs can't be in one division.
But from what I hear, there won't be divisions once OU and Texas join.  The SEC will do the new idea of 3 annual opponents + 6 others one year, the final 6 the next year. 
My hope is that instead of holding the entire conference hostage like they have since 1992, Bama, UT, UGA, and Auburn are all playing each other every year. 
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 20823
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2022, 04:38:51 PM »
I did this on the B1G board, but all it got was mocked by their resident asshole and the made an identical, new post about it.
.
Here's a take on the 16-team SEC with 3 annual rivals for each team.  Remember, no divisions.
Alabama - Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss
Auburn - Alabama, Georgia, Miss St
Georgia - Auburn, Florida, Carolina
Florida - Georgia, Carolina, Vanderbilt
Carolina - Florida, Kentucky, Georgia
Kentucky - Carolina, Missouri, Tenneessee
Missouri - Kentucky, Oklahoma, Arkansas
OU - Missouri, A&M, Texas
A&M - OU, Texas, LSU
Texas - A&M, Arkansas, OU
Arkansas - Texas, LSU, Missouri
LSU - Arkansas, Miss St, A&M
Miss St - LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn
Ole Miss - Vanderbiilt, Miss St, Alabama
Vanderbilt - Ole Miss, Tennessee, Florida
Tennessee - Vanderbilt, Alabama, Kentucky
.
Some notes:
Usually, for an entire conference, you'd have trouble spreading out games vs big-boy programs, but here, we have plenty of those
A&M probably has the toughest trio here
Someone has to/gets to play Vandy
Each team has at least 2 it would love to play
The weakest links among those is probably UK-MIZ, OU-MIZ, and VAN-OM
.
I've heard that SEC teams will submit 5 preferred teams they'd like to be among their annual 3, and the SEC will work to make that happen.  The difficulty is whether the strong programs wanting to play other strong programs (relevance) vs weak ones (built-in wins) and the opposite - the weak programs preferring strong or weak opponents.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

ALA2262

  • Player
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 607
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2022, 04:47:42 PM »
The future SEC East would be too strong.  The strength of one division over the other is cyclical.  The East dominated early in the SECCG era, and the West has now dominated for an even longer stretch.  But Saban will leave, Florida will rise back up, Tennessee will matter once again, etc.
.
If you went back to 1993 and told someone Alabama and Auburn would wind up in the East, they'd scoff and tell you that many top programs can't be in one division.
But from what I hear, there won't be divisions once OU and Texas join.  The SEC will do the new idea of 3 annual opponents + 6 others one year, the final 6 the next year. 
My hope is that instead of holding the entire conference hostage like they have since 1992, Bama, UT, UGA, and Auburn are all playing each other every year. 
I would bet on no divisions before I would bet on nine conference games. Thought for sure they would go to nine when they expanded to 14. Should be at nine now and going to 10. Only two schools in this conference want to play nine games. The others would be fine with seven. They just want to rake in the payouts to the conference. 

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 79839
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2022, 05:30:53 AM »
I enjoy GOOD OOC games a lot, and I've learned to be happy, mostly, with whatever they do.

UGA has series scheduled with Texas and OU which I imagine get changed somehow.

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 79839
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2022, 04:20:24 PM »
I always have had issues with maroons.

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 20469
  • Liked:
Re: Maroon Problem
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2022, 05:26:20 PM »
A&M is a true maroon, and so is MSU, but the others are various shades of crimson/red in my opinion.

Maroon has more purple in it, which is why it's perfect for the ags.

:)

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.