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Title: Maroon Problem
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 18, 2022, 07:43:05 PM
This is an unchecked MAJOR problem for the SEC, with the expansion happening.

The SEC West already has Alabama, MSU, and Arkansas wearing maroon and white.  Adding Oklahoma makes 4 such teams.

This is an outrage!!!
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: just1hog on May 19, 2022, 06:45:56 AM
Arkansas colors are Cardinal and White. Thank you very much! :93:
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Gigem on May 19, 2022, 08:32:26 AM
Aren’t you forgetting somebody?  
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 19, 2022, 07:03:58 PM
Yeah, see, exactly - there's so many, I forgot the Johnny-come-lately.  So out of 8 western teams, like 17 of them wear maroon!!!
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: ALA2262 on May 29, 2022, 09:58:24 AM
I believe you will be concerned about more than their colors when Alabama is moved to the East. :)
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on May 30, 2022, 10:14:57 AM
Eh, we're 1-0 against Bama in recent memory.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: ALA2262 on May 30, 2022, 03:36:15 PM
Uh, didn't see you in the thread or I would have made it clear I was replying to the OP. But since you chimed in, we are talking about H/H every other year and not 6 of the most recent 7 games being played in the State of Georgia. All 7 of which you lost.

https://stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/opp-opp.pl?start=2008&end=2021&team1=Georgia&team2=Alabama
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on May 30, 2022, 04:04:08 PM
I know, I was obviously kidding around.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 30, 2022, 04:19:16 PM
I believe you will be concerned about more than their colors when Alabama is moved to the East. :)
The future SEC East would be too strong.  The strength of one division over the other is cyclical.  The East dominated early in the SECCG era, and the West has now dominated for an even longer stretch.  But Saban will leave, Florida will rise back up, Tennessee will matter once again, etc.
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If you went back to 1993 and told someone Alabama and Auburn would wind up in the East, they'd scoff and tell you that many top programs can't be in one division.
But from what I hear, there won't be divisions once OU and Texas join.  The SEC will do the new idea of 3 annual opponents + 6 others one year, the final 6 the next year. 
My hope is that instead of holding the entire conference hostage like they have since 1992, Bama, UT, UGA, and Auburn are all playing each other every year. 
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 30, 2022, 04:38:51 PM
I did this on the B1G board, but all it got was mocked by their resident asshole and the made an identical, new post about it.
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Here's a take on the 16-team SEC with 3 annual rivals for each team.  Remember, no divisions.
Alabama - Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss
Auburn - Alabama, Georgia, Miss St
Georgia - Auburn, Florida, Carolina
Florida - Georgia, Carolina, Vanderbilt
Carolina - Florida, Kentucky, Georgia
Kentucky - Carolina, Missouri, Tenneessee
Missouri - Kentucky, Oklahoma, Arkansas
OU - Missouri, A&M, Texas
A&M - OU, Texas, LSU
Texas - A&M, Arkansas, OU
Arkansas - Texas, LSU, Missouri
LSU - Arkansas, Miss St, A&M
Miss St - LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn
Ole Miss - Vanderbiilt, Miss St, Alabama
Vanderbilt - Ole Miss, Tennessee, Florida
Tennessee - Vanderbilt, Alabama, Kentucky
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Some notes:
Usually, for an entire conference, you'd have trouble spreading out games vs big-boy programs, but here, we have plenty of those
A&M probably has the toughest trio here
Someone has to/gets to play Vandy
Each team has at least 2 it would love to play
The weakest links among those is probably UK-MIZ, OU-MIZ, and VAN-OM
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I've heard that SEC teams will submit 5 preferred teams they'd like to be among their annual 3, and the SEC will work to make that happen.  The difficulty is whether the strong programs wanting to play other strong programs (relevance) vs weak ones (built-in wins) and the opposite - the weak programs preferring strong or weak opponents.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: ALA2262 on May 30, 2022, 04:47:42 PM
The future SEC East would be too strong.  The strength of one division over the other is cyclical.  The East dominated early in the SECCG era, and the West has now dominated for an even longer stretch.  But Saban will leave, Florida will rise back up, Tennessee will matter once again, etc.
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If you went back to 1993 and told someone Alabama and Auburn would wind up in the East, they'd scoff and tell you that many top programs can't be in one division.
But from what I hear, there won't be divisions once OU and Texas join.  The SEC will do the new idea of 3 annual opponents + 6 others one year, the final 6 the next year. 
My hope is that instead of holding the entire conference hostage like they have since 1992, Bama, UT, UGA, and Auburn are all playing each other every year. 
I would bet on no divisions before I would bet on nine conference games. Thought for sure they would go to nine when they expanded to 14. Should be at nine now and going to 10. Only two schools in this conference want to play nine games. The others would be fine with seven. They just want to rake in the payouts to the conference. 
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2022, 05:30:53 AM
I enjoy GOOD OOC games a lot, and I've learned to be happy, mostly, with whatever they do.

UGA has series scheduled with Texas and OU which I imagine get changed somehow.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2022, 04:20:24 PM
I always have had issues with maroons.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: utee94 on June 29, 2022, 05:26:20 PM
A&M is a true maroon, and so is MSU, but the others are various shades of crimson/red in my opinion.

Maroon has more purple in it, which is why it's perfect for the ags.

:)
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on June 29, 2022, 05:47:20 PM
I was called a maroon once.  Or twice.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: utee94 on June 29, 2022, 05:52:22 PM
The thing I find much more disturbing about the SEC, is all of the mascot repeats.  How many Tigers or Bulldogs can there be?  Doesn't anyone believe in originality anymore?
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on June 29, 2022, 07:45:36 PM
UGA used to be the Goats.  I think the mascots predated the league.

Alabama is the Red Elephants.  UNC is some ram thingee.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: utee94 on June 29, 2022, 07:58:53 PM
I love our mascot.  It's regionally significant, it's unique, and Bevo looks cool.  Especially when he's about to gore a tiny little bulldog... ;)
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: just1hog on June 30, 2022, 05:51:14 AM
Yum Yum, steak is what every Hawg wants for dinner :93:
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on June 30, 2022, 08:27:39 AM
UGA attended every bowl game except one in Hawaii, they require quarantine for pets there for six months.

It would be great to see Texas and USC back in play, I think.  Of course, an elite USC would do a Clemson on the Pac, which wouldn't be so fun.

Have this many Blue Blood teams been down for this long in the past 50 years?  Can Nebraska ever get back?  I doubt it.

Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: utee94 on June 30, 2022, 09:20:47 AM
Yum Yum, steak is what every Hawg wants for dinner :93:
And I enjoy eating a delicious BBQ hog.  Gonna be some good times coming up.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: utee94 on June 30, 2022, 09:23:50 AM
UGA attended every bowl game except one in Hawaii, they require quarantine for pets there for six months.

It would be great to see Texas and USC back in play, I think.  Of course, an elite USC would do a Clemson on the Pac, which wouldn't be so fun.

Have this many Blue Blood teams been down for this long in the past 50 years? Can Nebraska ever get back?  I doubt it.


I dunno.  Texas is now at 12 year of suckitude and counting.  USC has been down most of that time as well, but I seem to recall them having a couple of good years thrown in?  Of course Texas also had one good year in the midst of the crapdom, with a Sugar Bowl win against some SEC power as I recall.  But the other 11 years have been lower than low.

As for Nebraska?  It's hard to imagine them never getting back.  But when I think about what it would take for them to get back to being a true helmet, it definitely seems like a stretch.  I don't think leaving the B12 and the exposure in Texas, while now being forced to compete for recruits in the midwest's already B1G blue-blood dominated areas, is going to do them any favors.  But I don't see any reason why they couldn't at least get up to Wisconsin-level success.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on June 30, 2022, 10:20:12 AM
Texas just needs the right coaching, which they will stumble across at some point.  USC is more iffy, they may have a good coach, or not.  I agree Nebraska is probably seeing a limit of about ten wins prebowl now in a very good year.  Ohio State will remain hyperconsistent.  

Alabama post-Saban will be interesting.  UGA could creep into the discussion with another couple NCs and consistent playoff appearances.  That could take a decade.  Or they could Clemson (who will be interesting to watch this year).  Michigan at least won the B1G and made the playoff, which sort of picks them up now of course.

OU is hanging tough, as is ND so far.  ND has a rep of course they need to shake somehow.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: rolltidefan on July 27, 2022, 06:14:25 PM
I did this on the B1G board, but all it got was mocked by their resident asshole and the made an identical, new post about it.
.
Here's a take on the 16-team SEC with 3 annual rivals for each team.  Remember, no divisions.
Alabama - Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss
Auburn - Alabama, Georgia, Miss St
Georgia - Auburn, Florida, Carolina
Florida - Georgia, Carolina, Vanderbilt
Carolina - Florida, Kentucky, Georgia
Kentucky - Carolina, Missouri, Tenneessee
Missouri - Kentucky, Oklahoma, Arkansas
OU - Missouri, A&M, Texas
A&M - OU, Texas, LSU
Texas - A&M, Arkansas, OU
Arkansas - Texas, LSU, Missouri
LSU - Arkansas, Miss St, A&M
Miss St - LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn
Ole Miss - Vanderbiilt, Miss St, Alabama
Vanderbilt - Ole Miss, Tennessee, Florida
Tennessee - Vanderbilt, Alabama, Kentucky
.
Some notes:
Usually, for an entire conference, you'd have trouble spreading out games vs big-boy programs, but here, we have plenty of those
A&M probably has the toughest trio here
Someone has to/gets to play Vandy
Each team has at least 2 it would love to play
The weakest links among those is probably UK-MIZ, OU-MIZ, and VAN-OM
.
I've heard that SEC teams will submit 5 preferred teams they'd like to be among their annual 3, and the SEC will work to make that happen.  The difficulty is whether the strong programs wanting to play other strong programs (relevance) vs weak ones (built-in wins) and the opposite - the weak programs preferring strong or weak opponents.
switch the ole miss, msu, bama, and au pairings (i.e. bama/msu, au/ole miss) and looks good to me.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: rolltidefan on July 27, 2022, 06:17:21 PM
orange is the problem. all the bad teams wear it. tenn, uf, auburn and now texas. bleh
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2022, 08:14:52 AM
Yeah, our three main rivals wear orange.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2022, 08:48:18 AM
The Comeback Begins: Battleship USS Texas Headed in For Critical Repairs - 19FortyFive (https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/07/the-comeback-begins-battleship-uss-texas-headed-in-for-critical-repairs/?fbclid=IwAR2zYzliRDWjSiuESPmeNBgho-ql8Oqzh172ygdU8QsvhMM9emMDBzPw5qs)

Hopeful sign for Longhorn fans ...
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: utee94 on July 28, 2022, 12:47:09 PM
orange is the problem. all the bad teams wear it. tenn, uf, auburn and now texas. bleh
Teams in red are awful.  Crimson, cardinal, scarlet, maroon, whatever-- truly the worst.
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2022, 01:05:13 PM
"Who's That Comin' Down the Track" Georgia Drunk Fan Chant - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKLVGe20vh0)
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2022, 01:05:54 PM
The Battle Hymn of the Bulldog Nation - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOMdrh8lIZM)
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2022, 01:07:21 PM
The new Georgia Bulldogs 4th quarter light show rocks - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhcTUGxYEm0)
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2022, 01:12:00 PM
Notre Dame vs Georgia 2019 - Sanford Stadium Intro Red Lights - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNaWl68Qnms)

Gets the juices flowing ...

Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2022, 01:15:07 PM
Kelee Ringo’s Pick 6 vs Alabama (WSB/UGA Radio Call) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS6479zZF2I)

Coach Smart went out to give a hand to help the Bama QB up.

Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: utee94 on July 28, 2022, 04:26:39 PM
Red on red violence is fine with me.  
Title: Re: Maroon Problem
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2022, 05:36:45 PM
It's akin to the Florida- Tenn game, I pull for whoever has the most losses.