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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1610 on: January 28, 2025, 11:16:27 AM »
On offense alone, Texas is losing the starting QB, 4 out of 5 starting offensive linemen, and the top 3 receivers including the starting TE.  It's going to be an interesting year.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1611 on: January 28, 2025, 12:11:31 PM »
On offense alone, Texas is losing the starting QB, 4 out of 5 starting offensive linemen, and the top 3 receivers including the starting TE.  It's going to be an interesting year.

That's the part that I don't think the shiny magic portal can fix instantly.  Seems to be a lot to be said for cohesiveness and number of starts together, not just number of starts, for OLs.  

Speaking of, feasibly, we stand to be better pretty much everywhere next year except for offensive tackle.  Hypothetically, we could lose to Alabama by only, like, 24 or so next year.  

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1612 on: January 28, 2025, 12:45:34 PM »
Trying to estimate how a 16-17 year old male body will react to a collegiate S&C program is the voodoo that drives OL recruiting. It's just a tough ask to evaluate these kids. Add to that the idea that each team in CFB starts 5 OL, needs another 3 at least to be ready to play a game, and then needs to develop depth, and that's a whole lotta evaluations that have to go right.

All that to say that OL and DL players in the portal are valuable. Starters tend to stick with their original teams. OL/DL in the portal are largely (!) pieces that aren't slated for playing time. Occasionally, a key back up might be in the portal. The starter quality talent will be fought over by major player teams.

Texas has a healthy OL depth chart. There's lots of quality in there, and I'm adamant that Kyle Flood is one of the best in the business (I regard him as more critical to the success of the program than Sark). The issue is that an OL isn't just your best 5 big guys. It's the guys that can work together as one unit. Texas is replacing a 5 year Center who made all the line calls and set protections. That's a guy that reads defensive fronts by looking at the face masks in front of him. Two of those four will likely be Day 1 draft picks.

There's every reason to believe Texas can replace the departed, but until an OL is beaten on by an angry defense that doesn't care about injuring scholarship superstars on the other side, you don't really know what you have.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1613 on: January 28, 2025, 12:57:59 PM »
OLs are weird to me.  UGA has had a good looking returning OL (as they did in 2024) that flopped, and vice versa.  Sometimes they pass protect OK but can't run block.

Then you have injuries of course.


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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1614 on: January 28, 2025, 02:29:16 PM »
Yeah, I'll say that overall I'm "not worried" about the o-line.  That's not to say I think it'll be easy to replace the starters, but as droog points out, Texas has a lot of talented depth here.  Every single one of the "new guys" played significant snaps in 2024. They just haven't all started, together, for many of those snaps.

Goosby especially did a really nice job as a RS freshman, playing in every game last season, and spending significant time as a starter when both of the starting OTs went down for a game or two, each, during the season.

I think by midseason this is going to be an excellent unit, a true strength of the team.  But opening the season on the road in Columbus, will be no easy task for them.

At RB, provided Baxter comes back from injury okay, Texas will actually be improved compared to 2024. 

WR is an area where I just trust Sark and the staff.  They know how to develop them and they know how to find them in the portal.

And then there's Arch.  His skillset is more dangerous than Quinn's in that he can be a mobile QB and make things happen off-schedule.  But he obviously doesn't have the experience.  It remains to be seen how the QB position in 2025/2026, will compare to 22/23/24.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1615 on: January 28, 2025, 04:26:58 PM »
Maybe there was just no way around it, but it really seemed like the loss of Baxter this season made Sark give up on any type of inside running. Once opposing defenses realized that Ewers was never ever keeping the ball, they just stayed at home and tried to defend outside. As a result, I think every part of Texas offense got tougher to execute.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1616 on: January 29, 2025, 09:48:16 AM »
Agree, Sark always seems overly ready to just abandon the running game, and this year was even worse with the pre-season loss of Baxter.  I'm really hoping he comes back close to 100% because he's a real difference maker. Using him as the feature back with Wisner as the alternate, would be a fantastic combination.  And then there's always Gibson, assuming he can learn to hold onto the ball...

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1617 on: January 29, 2025, 09:58:20 AM »
Agree, Sark always seems overly ready to just abandon the running game, and this year was even worse with the pre-season loss of Baxter.  I'm really hoping he comes back close to 100% because he's a real difference maker. Using him as the feature back with Wisner as the alternate, would be a fantastic combination.  And then there's always Gibson, assuming he can learn to hold onto the ball...

Indeed!
Having Arch "keep" once in a while will at least demand honesty from the LBs and DEs.

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« Reply #1618 on: January 29, 2025, 10:15:26 AM »
Indeed!
Having Arch "keep" once in a while will at least demand honesty from the LBs and DEs.
Agree, with Ewers there was just almost zero danger of punishing a defense for cheating. 

But what I'm most excited about is how I expect him to be able to use his feet to move out of danger and create off-schedule production out of what previously probably would have been a negative play.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1619 on: January 29, 2025, 10:35:49 AM »
I'm somewhat surprised the more mobile QBs aren't a bigger thing.  The top recruits mostly are the 6'4" types with rifle arms and "limited" mobility.  I see a lot of 6'0" guys who can and do move around a lot doing well on lesser quality teams, and even top level teams.  UGA won two natty's with one.

If you get a guy with both, well, that's great, but I wouldn't ask him to run much planned, but as noted above, he can extend plays that fell apart in the pocket and really frustrate defenses who nearly had him.

The Vandy QB is pretty exciting to watch.


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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1620 on: January 29, 2025, 10:37:03 AM »
Agree, Sark always seems overly ready to just abandon the running game, and this year was even worse with the pre-season loss of Baxter. 

I know there were USC fans back in the late aughts whose knock on Sark was that he called plays as if he were playing a video game.  I kinda understood that criticism at the time, and while I don't think it's egregious now, I think abandoning the run game too quickly is kind of a leftover vestige of those old tendencies.  

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1621 on: January 29, 2025, 11:57:46 AM »
In the SEC next year, my guess is folks will have "tiers", as usual, maybe something like the below?

Texas, UGA, Bama (just because)

LSU Tenn USCe  Florida A&M Ole Miss (Teams that could be dangerous.)

Auburn, Mizzou, Arky, Vandy, OU ...  (Teams that could surprise someone on a given.)


MSU UK (Teams that might upset a team just above)

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1622 on: February 10, 2025, 11:08:51 AM »

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1623 on: February 10, 2025, 11:18:26 AM »
And also the first Longhorn to score two TDs in the Superbowl...

 

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