Mornin' Sam,try dirty soxing UM will you >:(I hope you wear the same sock all week before sending it to Mdot
If MSU hadn't stubbed their toe at Purdue, OSU would still be going, based on what medina said of the tiebreakers, correct? Not sure any OSU fans knew they should have been rooting for MSU in that spot at the time.I knew that but to be honest, the Michigan Wolverines deserve to go to the championship game. Also kind of unspoken about but that was pretty damn impressive for Michigan State to rebound yesterday the way they did and get a 10 win season.
If MSU hadn't stubbed their toe at Purdue, OSU would still be going, based on what medina said of the tiebreakers, correct? Not sure any OSU fans knew they should have been rooting for MSU in that spot at the time.
michigan's run game and O-line is more like Wisconsin'sTrue. I was just checking a few other things. Michigan played two elite defenses, and defeated Wisconsin 38-17 (road), and Penn State 21-17 (road).
If MSU hadn't stubbed their toe at Purdue, OSU would still be going, based on what medina said of the tiebreakers, correct? Not sure any OSU fans knew they should have been rooting for MSU in that spot at the time.Tiebreaker in that scenario would end up as record of B1G-W opponents.
I'll likely be rooting for the Hawks and if the Hawks can fine some turnovers and special teams plays, they can winThere is a not insignificant chance that Michigan has a major hangover after beating their biggest rival for the first time in a decade.
The Michigan team that:MSU was a road game, UNL was a road night game, and Penn State was a road game. This will not be a road game, and Michigan may have the crowd with them. I'd have to guess there will be a shit ton of Michigan fans there- this is their first time ever being there and their fans have only waited oh- like 17 years to actually compete for a Big Ten title.That Michigan team, not so much.
- Lost to MSU,
- beat RU by a TD
- beat UNL by a FG
- Should have lost to PSU:
Even without a "hangover", if Michigan simply reverts to form this is a very winnable game for Iowa.
MSU was a road game, UNL was a road night game, and Penn State was a road game. This will not be a road game, and Michigan may have the crowd with them. I'd have to guess there will be a shit ton of Michigan fans there- this is their first time ever being there and their fans have only waited oh- like 17 years to actually compete for a Big Ten title.Oh my it really is feast or famine with you. Two days ago you thought your team sucked and you wanted to fire Harbaugh. Now you are downplaying their shortcomings and talking like they are on their way to a NC.
Michigan got jobbed on the Hutchinson TD vs MSU, should've been up 23, but whatever. They still crapped the bed there in the 4th QTR. I 100% believe that experience propelled them to finish the job vs OSU. They don't experience that pain and that defeat- they might not be where they are today. That game was a wake-up call- and they don't finish off Penn State or Ohio State in the 2nd half without blowing that lead vs Sparty on the road.
They were up big on Nebraska early and were up on Nebraska vast majority of the game- on the road- at night- and they kept letting Nebraska back in it. Nebraska had a lead for all of maybe 4 or 5 minutes I think. Michigan was controlling that game- and it shouldn't have been as close as it was. In the Big House or in a neutral field- I think the Nebbies would've got beaten by at least 10. Just a weird game.
No idea on earth how you say they should have lost to Penn State when they out-gained PSU in everything: total yards, rush yards, pass yards, first downs, TOP, oh and the only one that actually matters- points. Michigan's edge duo whipped Penn State's OL- and that was the story of the game.
Rutgers game- that to me is whatever. Michigan dominated that 1st half- Cade missed three wide open TD's- they should've been up 31-3 at half- but instead were only up 20-3. And then in the 2nd half they didn't even bother to show up- but it didn't really matter- because Rutgers was never a thread to actually win that game- it was like fighting your little brother with two arms tied behind your back and he still can't beat you. It was just a weird game.
Iowa can absolutely win this game. Any given Saturday. Michigan will have to bring it's A game. I just don't think they're going to be asleep at the wheel here.
just doesn't have the trench ponies like usual
Iowa also missed the top three teams from the East, was getting blasted by the fourth place team until their QB went down, and lost to two of the three bowl bound teams in their own division(https://i0.wp.com/media4.giphy.com/media/uq6ILNBI6g3As/giphy.gif)
Oh my it really is feast or famine with you. Two days ago you thought your team sucked and you wanted to fire Harbaugh. Now you are downplaying their shortcomings and talking like they are on their way to a NC.Never thought they sucked. Yes, I was fed up at the time they lost to MSU and thought they should move on from Harbaugh. Two reasons: (a) I believed and still believe he was screwing up the QB situation and therefore the team by playing a vastly inferior player over JJ McCarthy. And (b): he crapped down his pants and lost when he was up 16 in basically the 4th QTR vs arch-rival #2 Sparty. Can't do that. The miracle punt muff/block return for TD with 8 seconds left in the damn game and 4th QTR collapse cost him being 5-2 in that rivalry. He's 3-4. 3-4 is just not acceptable. Neither was 0-5 vs you know who. He was 0-5 in THE rivalry- but he's earned himself some good will and gratitude with that W vs Ohio State. But he's got to earn more of those. One alone doesn't mean he can lose that game forever again. Have to stay competitive in that one and make it a real rivalry- not be the annual OSU whipping boy- which let's face it- he was. Aside from 2016- and up until Haskins came in to relieve an injured JT in 2017 and started dealing- none of those games were even close.
IMHO they weren't as bad as you thought they were on Friday and they aren't as good as you think they are today.
Michigan's DBs all played well. Didn't seen any completed passes by Stroud to his crazy talented WRs that were wide open or behind the D.They absolutely did. It was a great strategy too- use the elite DEs to limit the time Stroud had.
Iowa also missed the top three teams from the East, was getting blasted by the fourth place team until their QB went down, and lost to two of the three bowl bound teams in their own divisionWell as we know those variables don't necassarily transfer,on the money line I'd take UM with a return not worth the bet.Hope it's hotly contested either way
On a bad day they still put up 27 so not embarrassingMichigan coaching staff was actually brilliant of course, any strategy that works to perfection will be considered brilliant.
how many people realize that at halftime Michigan had more passing yards then running yards? They (OSU) went into the second half on defense in their two deep shell on most looks which only left five or six in the box, and Michigan took care of that with ease. By the time Ohio State figured it out, they were physically bludgeoned and way too tired.At half time the game was 14-13 so they had to be happy considering the history.Maybe this will light a fire under Day because talking to my coaching buddies we weren't impressed with the sloppy play,missed opportunities,penalties .I really think they read their headlines believed it and turned soft.And the defense definately got winded .Losing Cooper,Smith and Togiai early departure(from 2020) certainly showed and Proctor done proved too much.Only one stat that counts.They don't ask how,they ask how many
I think Michigan is healthy for the most part. Even Corum is back from his high ankle sprain.Well if they play like saturday it's a foregone conclusion
I think Michigan is healthy for the most part. Even Corum is back from his high ankle sprain.This is a very underappreciated fact. There’s been a lot of years in the past 5 or 6, heading into THE game that UM was just beat up and not 100%. Certainly not an excuse, but it helps when all of your horses are healthy.
Michigan's DBs all played well. Didn't seen any completed passes by Stroud to his crazy talented WRs that were wide open or behind the D.I was surprised the Buckeyes didn't try more deep throws over the defense, especially in the 2nd half
Iowa knows how to play defense. I expect them to battle.I'm getting the same vibes from UM and looking at each of the remaining playoff hopefuls the title really should be up for grabs this year. UM might of picked the perfect year to pull things together.
Having said that- it is hard not to acknowledge the “journey“ that Michigan is on.
You just get the feeling that they focused on fundamentals and improvement each week this year and brought it all to ahead Saturday. But now they have the confidence of knowing what they are capable of and I don’t think Iowa can match them for 60 minutes. Also I don’t think Michigan will bow to anybody they will face in the playoffs -in other words, they have a real shot to go all the way in my honest opinion.
I was surprised the Buckeyes didn't try more deep throws over the defense, especially in the 2nd halfStroud wasn't getting the time in the pocket to allow the receivers to get behind the defense. The UM D line, specifically the ends, were getting to much pressure on him. He had to dump the ball off to the underneath receivers to often.
Well as we know those variables don't necassarily transfer,on the money line I'd take UM with a return not worth the bet.Hope it's hotly contested either way
Any way moving forward anyone have injury reports for the BTCG?
Georgia seems invincible.
I'm getting the same vibes from UM and looking at each of the remaining playoff hopefuls the title really should be up for grabs this year. UM might of picked the perfect year to pull things together.
Stroud wasn't getting the time in the pocket to allow the receivers to get behind the defense. The UM D line, specifically the ends, were getting to much pressure on him. He had to dump the ball off to the underneath receivers to often.
I recognize that it seems a weird thing to say about a team in the SEC that also had Clemson on the OOC schedule, but I don't think we know all that much about Georgia right now. And CD has basically said the same, over the course of the season.
Georgia seems invincible.
He's in the running for the Heisman and took some shots.I'll take him back for the next 2 yrs if he puts up those numbers
Charmin soft QB who won't run, and HC who is all flash and no smash.
He's in the running for the Heisman and took some shots.I'll take him back for the next 2 yrs if he puts up those numbers
Iowa is a very good team. Ranked #2 at one point for a reason. One big factor in Michigan's favor is that the game will be played in neutral Indianapolis and not Kinnick, thank God.Iowa is good on defense, and special teams. Michigan is good in all three areas.
I could keep going, but, uh, ok I got nothing. Just remember. Punting is winning!punting well is winning
any blocked punts, any punts returned for TD?None on Michigan. Don't know about Iowa.
you know, like Nebraska - game killers
None on Michigan. Don't know about Iowa.Iowa is not perfect on punts, but close.
College Football Nerds with their awesome as usual break-down. They say don't assume it will be easy, and think it will be close. Their computer model predicts Michigan- 28, Iowa- 19. They both pick Michigan to win 24-13.Exactly.
This game always scares me. I hate playing Iowa. Having said that- as long as Michigan plays it conservative, doesn't turn the ball over, make too many penalties, and punts the ball and plays field position and relies on their run game, defense, and special teams- I think they'll be able to pull it out. This might be Kirk's weakest OL, worst QB, and worst offense in his tenure. Iowa feasts on the turnover, other teams special teams errors, and capitalizing on mistakes.
Keep the game clean, keep everything in front of you, don't make unforced errors, mistakes, or penalties, protect the football, play field position, and force Iowa's offense to try to go 70-80-90 yard drives to score points. Don't give them special teams or defensive TD's or short fields- and they probably just won't score very many points.
This might be Kirk's weakest OL, worst QB, and worst offense in his tenure.That can't be they wouldn't have gotten here
I know you may not appreciate this, but Michigan should play TresselballBlasphemer throw you on a pile with the witches and put you to the torch
That can't be they wouldn't have gotten hereidk i mean they did get where they are based largely on the back of that solid defense, excellent special teams, and a nice schedule with some breaks. they didn't have to face any of the top 3 East teams (M, OSU, MSU), and they were getting beat 17-3 by the 4th place East team Penn State until Clifford went out with the injury and his god awful back-up came in that game and really just crapped the bed. Of the 3 teams they played from the West that are bowl eligible- they lost 2 of the 3 and got smoked in both of those games 27-7 (Purdue, Wisc) and the one they won they beat Minny in Kinnick in a close one- 27-22. Their other 3 West games were vs non-bowl teams Nebraska (3-9), Northwestern (3-9), and Illini (5-7). Their cross-over games were Indiana (2-10), Maryland (6-6), and Penn State (7-5) - a game they lose if Clifford doesn't get knocked out when Penn State is up 17-3. Their non-conference was Kent State (7-5), Colorado State (3-9), and Iowa State (7-5).
I agree with most of that except for the part that PSU would have won if Clifford did not get hurt. PSU early drives were mostly kept alive by Clifford running for 1st downs. Typically in similar games when a team is scoring early with the QB running, the Iowa defense adjusts and shuts down the other team in the 2nd half. The Nebraska game and Illinois game are great examples of this. Iowa was down by double digits and clawed its way back in both games. Iowa probably would have done the same against PSU. It was already 17-10 before the PSU backip even saw the field. After Iowa went up 23-20 against PSU, the Iowa offense went very conservative because Kirk Ferentz knew PSU would not score again with its backup QB. With or without Clifford, Iowa was going to get back in that game.After Clifford got knocked out up 17-3, PSU back-up Ta'Quan Roberson proceeded to complete 33% of his passes going 7/21 for 34 yards passing on a completely mind-boggling .62 yards per attempt, 0 TD, 2 INT- he also ran the ball on 10 carries for 27 yards for an avg of 2.7 yards per carry with 1 fumble to boot with a QBR of 23.5. That was an all-time bad performance. I don't think it can be overstated just how badly they were missing Clifford the rest of that game.
I guess we will just go in circles on the Clifford argument since Clifford did not finish the Iowa game. I am just saying the Iowa defense has a history of shutting down QB's like Clifford in the 2nd half of games, and Iowa was only down by 7 points once the PSU backup QB entered the game.You are what your record says you are, so Iowa deserves credit for being 10-2. I don't know they will lose badly to Michigan. I think it will be very close game. Michigan has to make sure not to beat themselves and make a ton of mistakes, penalties, and turnovers. If they can limit the mistakes, penalties, protect the football and play complimentary football- then I like Michigan's chances to pull out a close one.
I will agree however that the PSU backip was absolutely awful. Possibly one of the worst performances I have ever seen from a backup QB. That made Iowa's comeback much much easier. I mean Iowa literally kneeled down 3 times on its 2nd last possession because it had so little confidence PSU would score on its last drive. He was that bad.
I will also agree that Iowa is not as good as its 10-2 record and is going to lose badly to Michigan.
Jim Harbaugh went 8 for 13 for 55 yards in #2 Michigan's 1985 10-12 loss to #1 Iowa. Harbaugh later remarked, "it felt like someone reached in and pulled everything out," when Iowa kicker Houghtlin's last second field goal went through the uprights to win the game for the Hawkeyes. I think Harbaugh will have Michigan ready to play this Saturday.I was at that game
Jim Harbaugh went 8 for 13 for 55 yards in #2 Michigan's 1985 10-12 loss to #1 Iowa. Harbaugh later remarked, "it felt like someone reached in and pulled everything out," when Iowa kicker Houghtlin's last second field goal went through the uprights to win the game for the Hawkeyes. I think Harbaugh will have Michigan ready to play this Saturday.Harbaugh is also 0-1 as a coach in Kinnick Stadium. In 2016 #2 Michigan led 10-0 early but ended up losing to Iowa 14-13 on a last second FG by Keith Duncan. (Yes this was your typical Iowa score with 1 TD, 2 FGs and a safety)
I was at that gameI was at that game too. That was pure chaos after the game. I was extremely drunk and I got separated from all my friends, and this was way before anybody had a mobile phone. Fortunately I just had to stumble back to Burge Hall on the other side of river, where I was living that year.
a couple years ago I had a nice conversation with Chuck Long regarding that game and his career in Iowa City
Harbaugh is also 0-1 as a coach in Kinnick Stadium. In 2016 #2 Michigan led 10-0 early but ended up losing to Iowa 14-13 on a last second FG by Keith Duncan. (Yes this was your typical Iowa score with 1 TD, 2 FGs and a safety)Michigan was screwed once Speight got cracked in half. Iowa broke him in half and destroyed his shoulder. Michigan literally couldn't get first downs. It affected him throwing the football the following week when they played Ohio State. Kid was awful vs OSU and basically handed them the game. Iowa ruined Michigan's season that year. Not only cost them the game in Kinnick but cost them the game vs Ohio State. I think with a healthy Speight they probably win both those games and go 12-0 in the regular season.
Michigan was screwed once Speight got cracked in half. Iowa broke him in half and destroyed his shoulder. Michigan literally couldn't get first downs. It affected him throwing the football the following week when they played Ohio State. Kid was awful vs OSU and basically handed them the game. Iowa ruined Michigan's season that year. Not only cost them the game in Kinnick but cost them the game vs Ohio State. I think with a healthy Speight they probably win both those games and go 12-0 in the regular season.Yes, 2016 should have been Mich's year but things changed after Iowa. I think that Mich actually had another game in-between Iowa and OSU that Mich barely won. Mich had a very veteran team that year while OSU had a younger team. That should have been the year that Mich beat OSU. But something always seems to happen to Michigan in November under Harbaugh (until this year anyway).
This from a Spartan BoardI have to admit, that is funny
The only way I see Iowa winning this game, is if UM gets lost on the way there. Which could happen, as they have never been there before.
Yes, 2016 should have been Mich's year but things changed after Iowa. I think that Mich actually had another game in-between Iowa and OSU that Mich barely won. Mich had a very veteran team that year while OSU had a younger team. That should have been the year that Mich beat OSU. But something always seems to happen to Michigan in November under Harbaugh (until this year anyway).Omg you're right, forgot about that- you're right- they played Indiana and slugged it out to a 20-10 win with crappy John O'Korn playing in place of Speight. That hit vs Iowa which broke his collarbone tanked Michigan's 2016 season and Speight's career. He was never the same player after that hit. Not that he was an amazing QB or anything- but he was a solid start-able B1G QB that you could win games with. He went from that to terrible almost overnight after Iowa broke him in half. He got benched at Michigan transferred to UCLA and got benched there too. He actually played out the Iowa game with a broken collarbone and was awful. He played with a special brace vs Ohio State but he was still bad. Speight threw 1 pick 6, another pick which got returned to Michigan's 3 yard line, and he muffed a snap and fumbled the ball when Michigan was on Ohio State's 2 yard line and about to go in for a score. That's a 21 point swing- in a game that was decided by 3 in double OT. They get even mediocre QB play out of him like they had gotten all season before Iowa destroyed his life- they win that game in Columbus.
so, it's possible that this one is personal for Jim and therefore, he might pucker?yup. dude probably has nightmares about Kinnick. Thankfully this game is not in Kinnick.
| #2 Michigan Wolverines (8-1, 11-1) vs. #13 Iowa Hawkeyes (7-2, 10-2) |
| 8:00 - Indianapolis, IN - FOX |
| Well, we got the game we all figured we'd get going into last weekend, when all we needed to happen was for Michigan to beat Ohio State for the first time in a decade, and the second time in 18 years; AND then Minnesota to win the Axe game, for also the second time in the past 18 years. Just about the only predictable part of this matchup is that it required Nebraska choking, and Iowa going full Iowa, with weird ways to score points. The Hawkeyes better figure out a similar scoring method this weekend, because I don't know how their offense will score against Michigan. Since letting Kenneth Walker run all over them, the Michigan run defense has absolutely shut opponents down, giving up just 3.1 ypc over their past three games, including just 2.1 last week against Ohio State. And that was with the threat of that wide receiver trio keeping Michigan's safeties and linebackers honest. No such threat from Iowa. And while Ohio State's offensive line got exposed last week, and you figure Iowa will at least put up a better fight, this is far from a typical Hawkeye offensive line. In fact in standard down situations, they rank in the bottom 10 of the entire FBS in line yards, for both run blocking and pass blocking. They are outside the top 100 in 7 of the 9 offensive line metrics that Football Outsiders uses. The two they aren't? #73 in passing downs sack rate, and #27 in power success rate. So really, the only time this offensive line isn't terrible is in 3rd or 4th and short situations. Where Iowa can force at least some issues for Michigan is with their defensive front. I don't think Michigan will absolutely hammer away at will on the ground, as they did last weekend. Thus meaning Cade McNamera won't be in nearly as many easy passing situations. He had a good game, but he didn't go downfield a ton. Against the best run defense they faced, Wisconsin, who held them to just 2.5 ypc, McNamera was able to carry the offense, recording his highest single game QBR of any Big Ten game this season, completing 61% of his passes for 197 yards, 2 touchdowns and 0 interceptions. The reason was that even though Michigan was not running the ball well, the Wisconsin offense wasn't putting any pressure on them to come out of it, so they still ran the ball 44 times, even though they only had two non-QB carries of more than 4 yards. I think you'll see something similar here, although maybe not as extreme. In Michigan's one loss, the Michigan State offense was doing enough that the quarterbacks had to do more, and you saw two QB fumbles (one lost), and an interception in the fourth quarter. Iowa I think is going to look a lot like the Wisconsin game. Michigan's running game will be slowed, but the Hawkeye offense won't do enough (anything) to force Michigan out of their comfort zone. They'll grind away, emphasize ball security, and pick their spots. I don't see any way Iowa wins this without being at least +2 in turnover margin, and Michigan will play call away from it, because they can afford to. |
| MICHIGAN 28, IOWA 17 |
was looking at getting tickets- and even willing to pay an arm and a leg for them- but then I was looking up flights, hotels, and airbnb's and....nothing. Very limited non-stop flights if any- while they are a ton to DTW or O'Hare. As for where to stay- there aren't very many airbnb's in Indianapolis, period- which makes sense- why would there be? It's Indianapolis. Nobody says, "hey, let me go vacation in Indianapolis". And Airbnb is largely a vacation stays app. Hotels are all sold out or hour plus away.
So I immediately thought: Indianapolis is not the right city for this game. not a big enough city, not enough hotel rooms. i actually looked it up- there are 33,000 hotel rooms in Indianapolis Metro-Area- which includes the city itself and it's suburbs. There are 45,000 hotel rooms in downtown Chicago alone- with nearly close to double that when you include it's metro area. Even Detroit/Metro-Detroit have nearly 48,000 hotel rooms.
Game should move to either Detroit or Chicago. Period. Indianapolis is a dumb location for it.
I don't think they want an open-air game so Soldier Field is out. I guess Detroit fits the bill though. And what about Minneapolis?Minneapolis is even smaller with less hotel rooms than Indianapolis. Probably less and more expensive flights as well.
Minneapolis is even smaller with less hotel rooms than Indianapolis. Probably less and more expensive flights as well.Why have it in any of those yankee shitholes at all?
I really think they should just do it in Chicago, F it. Play it outside.
Why have it in any of those yankee shitholes at all?Now you're talking. Miami itself doesn't have a football stadium however- Hard Rock Stadium is in a suburb of Miami.
Game should be played in Miami, obviously.
leave it in IndyNah. Indy is a country bumpkin small town shithole. F that place in the A.
I didn't have a problem when the Huskers were in the game
Chicago and Detroit shitholes don't deserve the revenue
Minnie has a GREAT stadium, but it's too far from the center of the conference
get your room early, have some faith in your team
perhaps some cancellations are still coming
many old folks don't want to sit outside in December
Nah. Indy is a country bumpkin small town shithole. F that place in the A.So you think rising gang activity and murder rates would be a civic attraction? Get in the corner adults are talking
Move it to Chicago. Major world city. Better restaurants. More stuff to do. LOT more hotel rooms and AirBnBs. Move it to Detroit for now. When the new retractable dome Bears stadium opens in the suburbs of Chicago in a few years- move it there.
So you think rising gang activity and murder rates would be a civic attraction? Get in the corner adults are talkingWell, the brand new state of the art retractable dome stadium the Bears are building is going to be in the nice safe suburbs!
I go to the Big Ten championship almost every year. Indy is great!Can you imagine going on the road the next week and the week after that.Supporting the team and ponying up for that parade,crazy IMO
So you think rising gang activity and murder rates would be a civic attraction? Get in the corner adults are talkinghttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-public-schools-moves-to-eliminate-gendered-restrooms
So you think rising gang activity and murder rates would be a civic attraction? Get in the corner adults are talkingOn the one hand, that's a silly-ass way to define a city.
country bumpkin small town shitholes are a FAR better experience for most fansAbsolutely. We could host the BTCG at Brown Field in front of 5,100 in Manchester :( Actually, with the COVID-19 pandemic, the BTCG should be in an outdoor stadium, preferably in Kinnick Stadium, alternatively, in Chicago.
perhaps not for the donors of substance that have more money than brains
friendly, appreciative hosts that welcome Big Ten fans w/o the crime and high prices
On the one hand, that's a silly-ass way to define a city.I think it's important to have a decent airport for fans that are flying in from all over the country. I assume Indy has that, been 25 years since I flew into Indy.
On the other, Indy is objectively a fantastic place to host that kind of event, frankly better than Chicago for a litany of reasons (unless you want to make a weekend of it and go to museums or art galleries). If you want to get to town, eat drink, hang out with fans, go to a game, stay over, eat breakfast and leave, Indy is superb.
museums or art galleries???? 90% of Big Ten football fans are knuckle draggin mouth breathers that swill light macro beer and eat chicken wings or burgersAnd the other 10% are Northwestern fans? :57:
94 needs to take lessons from 847 on how to disparage a city to scare people away. 847 was much more effective :57:
I think it's important to have a decent airport for fans that are flying in from all over the country. I assume Indy has that, been 25 years since I flew into Indy.And thus, Indy.
museums or art galleries???? 90% of Big Ten football fans are knuckle draggin mouth breathers that swill light macro beer and eat chicken wings or burgers
90% of Big Ten football fans are knuckle draggin mouth breathers that swill light macro beer and eat chicken wings or burgersHow do you classify those suds you toss back
well, my usual is not a 13% porter or stout, but I do drink them when I can find them
my usual is a 5% Bud heavy - 137 calories
the masses, especially ladies and guys on diets, prefer Bud Light, Miller Lite, Coors Light and now Busch Latte (entire state of Iowa)
Budweiser's flavor might not appeal to Utee and some others, but at least there's some flavor of beer
That's the thing, I wouldn't call it a top flight steakhouse. It's 100+ years old and has an infamous appetizer, which is outstanding. The bar is great and it's a fun atmosphere, but as far as steak, it's like Peter Luger's. It's underwhelming. At least they don't cut your steak in slices like your six years old like Lugers.I've heard about the shrimp cocktail with horseradish - I'd like to try it.
Despite all of that, the place prints money.
In the 2 games Kirk Ferentz and Jim Harbaugh have coached against each other, they are 1-1 and neither team has ever scored more than 14 points.I think both those Iowa teams were better than the current edition.
So walk into the next Biker Bar and start knocking over those beers and report back how that worked out
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