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Topic: #2 Michigan (8-1, 12-1) vs. #13 Iowa (7-2, 10-3) Postgame

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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2021, 07:24:58 AM »
I guess we will just go in circles on the Clifford argument since Clifford did not finish the Iowa game.  I am just saying the Iowa defense has a history of shutting down QB's like Clifford in the 2nd half of games,  and Iowa was only down by 7 points once the PSU backup QB entered the game.

I will agree however that the PSU backip was absolutely awful.  Possibly one of the worst performances I have ever seen from a backup QB.  That made Iowa's comeback much much easier.  I mean Iowa literally kneeled down 3 times on its 2nd last possession because it had so little confidence PSU would score on its last drive.  He was that bad.

I will also agree that Iowa is not as good as its 10-2 record and is going to lose badly to Michigan.
You are what your record says you are, so Iowa deserves credit for being 10-2. I don't know they will lose badly to Michigan. I think it will be very close game. Michigan has to make sure not to beat themselves and make a ton of mistakes, penalties, and turnovers. If they can limit the mistakes, penalties, protect the football and play complimentary football- then I like Michigan's chances to pull out a close one. 

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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #71 on: December 01, 2021, 11:52:14 AM »
Jim Harbaugh went 8 for 13 for 55 yards in #2 Michigan's 1985 10-12 loss to #1 Iowa.  Harbaugh later remarked, "it felt like someone reached in and pulled everything out," when Iowa kicker Houghtlin's last second field goal went through the uprights to win the game for the Hawkeyes.  I think Harbaugh will have Michigan ready to play this Saturday.
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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #73 on: December 01, 2021, 12:20:52 PM »
Jim Harbaugh went 8 for 13 for 55 yards in #2 Michigan's 1985 10-12 loss to #1 Iowa.  Harbaugh later remarked, "it felt like someone reached in and pulled everything out," when Iowa kicker Houghtlin's last second field goal went through the uprights to win the game for the Hawkeyes.  I think Harbaugh will have Michigan ready to play this Saturday.
I was at that game

a couple years ago I had a nice conversation with Chuck Long regarding that game and his career in Iowa City
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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #74 on: December 01, 2021, 12:29:58 PM »
Jim Harbaugh went 8 for 13 for 55 yards in #2 Michigan's 1985 10-12 loss to #1 Iowa.  Harbaugh later remarked, "it felt like someone reached in and pulled everything out," when Iowa kicker Houghtlin's last second field goal went through the uprights to win the game for the Hawkeyes.  I think Harbaugh will have Michigan ready to play this Saturday.
Harbaugh is also 0-1 as a coach in Kinnick Stadium.  In 2016 #2 Michigan led 10-0 early but ended up losing to Iowa 14-13 on a last second FG by Keith Duncan.  (Yes this was your typical Iowa score with 1 TD,  2 FGs and a safety)

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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #75 on: December 01, 2021, 12:34:40 PM »
I was at that game

a couple years ago I had a nice conversation with Chuck Long regarding that game and his career in Iowa City
I was at that game too.  That was pure chaos after the game.  I was extremely drunk and I got separated from all my friends,  and this was way before anybody had a mobile phone.   Fortunately I just had to stumble back to Burge Hall on the other side of river, where I was living that year.

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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #76 on: December 01, 2021, 12:35:20 PM »
Ferentz is 0-1 in Indianapolis.
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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #77 on: December 01, 2021, 07:22:33 PM »
Harbaugh is also 0-1 as a coach in Kinnick Stadium.  In 2016 #2 Michigan led 10-0 early but ended up losing to Iowa 14-13 on a last second FG by Keith Duncan.  (Yes this was your typical Iowa score with 1 TD,  2 FGs and a safety)
Michigan was screwed once Speight got cracked in half. Iowa broke him in half and destroyed his shoulder. Michigan literally couldn't get first downs. It affected him throwing the football the following week when they played Ohio State. Kid was awful vs OSU and basically handed them the game. Iowa ruined Michigan's season that year. Not only cost them the game in Kinnick but cost them the game vs Ohio State. I think with a healthy Speight they probably win both those games and go 12-0 in the regular season.

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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #78 on: December 01, 2021, 11:38:02 PM »
Should Ferentz somehow pull this out of his wazzou they'll build a statue of him.A Pink One
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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #79 on: December 02, 2021, 12:00:52 AM »
This from a Spartan Board

The only way I see Iowa winning this game, is if UM gets lost on the way there. Which could happen, as they have never been there before.
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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #80 on: December 02, 2021, 12:14:17 AM »
I plan to linger downtown.   Doubt I'll buy a ticket.  I will pry open wallet for cfp final though. 

Any fans going?  PM me.  I recall bumping into one of you Michigan fans that were at one of these a few years back.

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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #81 on: December 02, 2021, 12:27:34 AM »
Michigan was screwed once Speight got cracked in half. Iowa broke him in half and destroyed his shoulder. Michigan literally couldn't get first downs. It affected him throwing the football the following week when they played Ohio State. Kid was awful vs OSU and basically handed them the game. Iowa ruined Michigan's season that year. Not only cost them the game in Kinnick but cost them the game vs Ohio State. I think with a healthy Speight they probably win both those games and go 12-0 in the regular season.
Yes, 2016 should have been Mich's year but things changed after Iowa.  I think that Mich actually had another game in-between Iowa and OSU that Mich barely won.  Mich had a very veteran team that year while OSU had a younger team. That should have been the year that Mich beat OSU.    But something always seems to happen to Michigan in November under Harbaugh (until this year anyway).

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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #82 on: December 02, 2021, 12:28:51 AM »
This from a Spartan Board

The only way I see Iowa winning this game, is if UM gets lost on the way there. Which could happen, as they have never been there before.
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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #83 on: December 02, 2021, 09:49:37 AM »
Yes, 2016 should have been Mich's year but things changed after Iowa.  I think that Mich actually had another game in-between Iowa and OSU that Mich barely won.  Mich had a very veteran team that year while OSU had a younger team. That should have been the year that Mich beat OSU.    But something always seems to happen to Michigan in November under Harbaugh (until this year anyway).
Omg you're right, forgot about that- you're right- they played Indiana and slugged it out to a 20-10 win with crappy John O'Korn playing in place of Speight. That hit vs Iowa which broke his collarbone tanked Michigan's 2016 season and Speight's career. He was never the same player after that hit. Not that he was an amazing QB or anything- but he was a solid start-able B1G QB that you could win games with. He went from that to terrible almost overnight after Iowa broke him in half. He got benched at Michigan transferred to UCLA and got benched there too. He actually played out the Iowa game with a broken collarbone and was awful. He played with a special brace vs Ohio State but he was still bad. Speight threw 1 pick 6, another pick which got returned to Michigan's 3 yard line, and he muffed a snap and fumbled the ball when Michigan was on Ohio State's 2 yard line and about to go in for a score. That's a 21 point swing- in a game that was decided by 3 in double OT. They get even mediocre QB play out of him like they had gotten all season before Iowa destroyed his life- they win that game in Columbus. 

Harbaugh owes Iowa payback badly for both his playing career (1985) and coaching career (2016). 

 

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