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Topic: #2 Michigan (8-1, 12-1) vs. #13 Iowa (7-2, 10-3) Postgame

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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #84 on: December 02, 2021, 10:04:58 AM »
so, it's possible that this one is personal for Jim and therefore, he might pucker?
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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #85 on: December 02, 2021, 10:05:46 AM »
so, it's possible that this one is personal for Jim and therefore, he might pucker?
yup. dude probably has nightmares about Kinnick. Thankfully this game is not in Kinnick.

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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #86 on: December 02, 2021, 10:07:25 AM »
wait til he sees those black & gold boys coming out of the locker room holding hands
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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #87 on: December 02, 2021, 02:10:14 PM »
SP+ predicts Michigan: 27, Iowa: 16 

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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #88 on: December 02, 2021, 04:23:18 PM »

#2 Michigan Wolverines (8-1, 11-1) vs. #13 Iowa Hawkeyes (7-2, 10-2)
8:00 - Indianapolis, IN - FOX
Well, we got the game we all figured we'd get going into last weekend, when all we needed to happen was for Michigan to beat Ohio State for the first time in a decade, and the second time in 18 years; AND then Minnesota to win the Axe game, for also the second time in the past 18 years.  Just about the only predictable part of this matchup is that it required Nebraska choking, and Iowa going full Iowa, with weird ways to score points.  The Hawkeyes better figure out a similar scoring method this weekend, because I don't know how their offense will score against Michigan.  Since letting Kenneth Walker run all over them, the Michigan run defense has absolutely shut opponents down, giving up just 3.1 ypc over their past three games, including just 2.1 last week against Ohio State.  And that was with the threat of that wide receiver trio keeping Michigan's safeties and linebackers honest.  No such threat from Iowa.  And while Ohio State's offensive line got exposed last week, and you figure Iowa will at least put up a better fight, this is far from a typical Hawkeye offensive line.  In fact in standard down situations, they rank in the bottom 10 of the entire FBS in line yards, for both run blocking and pass blocking.  They are outside the top 100 in 7 of the 9 offensive line metrics that Football Outsiders uses.  The two they aren't?  #73 in passing downs sack rate, and #27 in power success rate.  So really, the only time this offensive line isn't terrible is in 3rd or 4th and short situations.  Where Iowa can force at least some issues for Michigan is with their defensive front.  I don't think Michigan will absolutely hammer away at will on the ground, as they did last weekend.  Thus meaning Cade McNamera won't be in nearly as many easy passing situations.  He had a good game, but he didn't go downfield a ton.  Against the best run defense they faced, Wisconsin, who held them to just 2.5 ypc, McNamera was able to carry the offense, recording his highest single game QBR of any Big Ten game this season, completing 61% of his passes for 197 yards, 2 touchdowns and 0 interceptions.  The reason was that even though Michigan was not running the ball well, the Wisconsin offense wasn't putting any pressure on them to come out of it, so they still ran the ball 44 times, even though they only had two non-QB carries of more than 4 yards.  I think you'll see something similar here, although maybe not as extreme.  In Michigan's one loss, the Michigan State offense was doing enough that the quarterbacks had to do more, and you saw two QB fumbles (one lost), and an interception in the fourth quarter.  Iowa I think is going to look a lot like the Wisconsin game.  Michigan's running game will be slowed, but the Hawkeye offense won't do enough (anything) to force Michigan out of their comfort zone.  They'll grind away, emphasize ball security, and pick their spots.  I don't see any way Iowa wins this without being at least +2 in turnover margin, and Michigan will play call away from it, because they can afford to.
MICHIGAN 28, IOWA 17


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Re: #5 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #16 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #89 on: December 02, 2021, 04:50:38 PM »
Hmm...  The last time that Michigan won at least a Big Ten co-championship was in 2004 when they tied with.....  Iowa!

The last time that Iowa won at least a Big Ten co-championship was in 2004 when they tied with.....  Michigan!

Michigan ended up in the Rose Bowl and Iowa in the capitol one (Citrus) Bowl based on Mich beating Iowa h2h that year.

Well, at least 1 Big Ten conference drought will come to an end this Saturday.

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Re: #2 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #13 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #90 on: December 02, 2021, 05:48:14 PM »
was looking at getting tickets- and even willing to pay an arm and a leg for them- but then I was looking up flights, hotels, and airbnb's and....nothing. Very limited non-stop flights if any- while they are a ton to DTW or O'Hare. As for where to stay- there aren't very many airbnb's in Indianapolis, period- which makes sense- why would there be? It's Indianapolis. Nobody says, "hey, let me go vacation in Indianapolis". And Airbnb is largely a vacation stays app. Hotels are all sold out or hour plus away.

So I immediately thought: Indianapolis is not the right city for this game. not a big enough city, not enough hotel rooms. i actually looked it up- there are 33,000 hotel rooms in Indianapolis & it's Metro-Area combined- which includes the city itself and it's suburbs. There are 45,000 hotel rooms in downtown Chicago alone- with nearly close to double that when you include it's metro area. And tons of Airbnbs in Chicago as well- as it's the 3rd largest city in the US, a major market and tourist destination. Even Detroit/Metro-Detroit have nearly 48,000 hotel rooms.

Game should move to either Detroit or Chicago. Period. Indianapolis is a dumb location for it.

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Re: #2 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #13 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #91 on: December 02, 2021, 05:51:32 PM »
was looking at getting tickets- and even willing to pay an arm and a leg for them- but then I was looking up flights, hotels, and airbnb's and....nothing. Very limited non-stop flights if any- while they are a ton to DTW or O'Hare. As for where to stay- there aren't very many airbnb's in Indianapolis, period- which makes sense- why would there be? It's Indianapolis. Nobody says, "hey, let me go vacation in Indianapolis". And Airbnb is largely a vacation stays app. Hotels are all sold out or hour plus away.

So I immediately thought: Indianapolis is not the right city for this game. not a big enough city, not enough hotel rooms. i actually looked it up- there are 33,000 hotel rooms in Indianapolis Metro-Area- which includes the city itself and it's suburbs. There are 45,000 hotel rooms in downtown Chicago alone- with nearly close to double that when you include it's metro area. Even Detroit/Metro-Detroit have nearly 48,000 hotel rooms.

Game should move to either Detroit or Chicago. Period. Indianapolis is a dumb location for it.

I don't think they want an open-air game so Soldier Field is out.  I guess Detroit fits the bill though.  And what about Minneapolis?

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Re: #2 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #13 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #92 on: December 02, 2021, 05:57:42 PM »
I don't think they want an open-air game so Soldier Field is out.  I guess Detroit fits the bill though.  And what about Minneapolis?
Minneapolis is even smaller with less hotel rooms than Indianapolis. Probably less and more expensive flights as well. 

I really think they should just do it in Chicago, F it. Play it outside.

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Re: #2 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #13 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #93 on: December 02, 2021, 05:59:49 PM »
Minneapolis is even smaller with less hotel rooms than Indianapolis. Probably less and more expensive flights as well.

I really think they should just do it in Chicago, F it. Play it outside.
Why have it in any of those yankee shitholes at all?

Game should be played in Miami, obviously.

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Re: #2 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #13 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #94 on: December 02, 2021, 06:06:46 PM »
Why have it in any of those yankee shitholes at all?

Game should be played in Miami, obviously.
Now you're talking. Miami itself doesn't have a football stadium however- Hard Rock Stadium is in a suburb of Miami. 

In all seriousness, I think Chicago is a great city (even if it's mayor is an idiot and the local gov't is corrupt as shit and gun violence is out of control) - and that it should be in Chicago. And apparently the new Bears stadium in Arlington Heights about 30 miles outside of Chicago will be state of the art with a retractable dome. There you go. Problem solved. Put it there in the new Bears stadium. 

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Re: #2 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #13 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #95 on: December 02, 2021, 08:21:23 PM »
leave it in Indy

I didn't have a problem when the Huskers were in the game

Chicago and Detroit shitholes don't deserve the revenue

Minnie has a GREAT stadium, but it's too far from the center of the conference

get your room early, have some faith in your team

perhaps some cancellations are still coming

many old folks don't want to sit outside in December
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Re: #2 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #13 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #96 on: December 02, 2021, 08:31:08 PM »
You tell'em Saki Suds
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Re: #2 Michigan (8-1, 11-1) vs. #13 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) CCG Week
« Reply #97 on: December 02, 2021, 08:32:26 PM »
leave it in Indy

I didn't have a problem when the Huskers were in the game

Chicago and Detroit shitholes don't deserve the revenue

Minnie has a GREAT stadium, but it's too far from the center of the conference

get your room early, have some faith in your team

perhaps some cancellations are still coming

many old folks don't want to sit outside in December
Nah. Indy is a country bumpkin small town shithole. F that place in the A. 

Move it to Chicago. Major world city. Better restaurants. More stuff to do. LOT more hotel rooms and AirBnBs. Move it to Detroit for now. When the new retractable dome Bears stadium opens in the suburbs of Chicago in a few years- move it there.

 

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