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Gigem · « **Reply #98 on:** November 06, 2019, 09:01:36 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on November 06, 2019, 01:33:40 PM

^^^^^^^^

T95 is speaking for himself on that. I like LSU. I was happy to play them and will be happy to play them again next year. I hope our defense isn't so shitty next year and that we actually try to field a special teams unit.

I know that LSU doesn't view the Aggies as a rival and never will. Most Aggies I know enjoy playing LSU but don't consider them a rival, either. It takes scores of years to develop that, and the gap from those games in the 80s/early 90s til 2012 was pretty large so it didn't really bridge, especially with younger Ags.

I think that in order to consider somebody your rival it might take some time, and losing to them a bunch, or losing to them at an inopportune time as well.

For example, last years 7 OT game was bad for LSU, but imagine what would happen if LSU beats Bama this week but then loses to A&M at home, knocking them out of title contention. Mucho bad blood will flow.

utee94 · « **Reply #99 on:** November 06, 2019, 09:04:42 PM »

Sure, but Nebraska lost to Texas 9 out of 10 times in the B12, oftentimes in gut-wrenching fashion, and still I don't think many Huskers would view Texas as a "rival." Perhaps a "hated opponent" or something, but not a rival.

As far as I know, Nebraska really only has one of those.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #100 on:** November 06, 2019, 09:33:42 PM »

I think including the other teams name in your fight song probably is the deciding factor

I would go so far as to say there arent many other rivalries that do that

Gigem · « **Reply #101 on:** November 07, 2019, 05:39:11 AM »

So are you saying that A&M is Texas's biggest rival then?

Gigem · « **Reply #102 on:** November 07, 2019, 05:45:37 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on November 06, 2019, 09:04:42 PM

Sure, but Nebraska lost to Texas 9 out of 10 times in the B12, oftentimes in gut-wrenching fashion, and still I don't think many Huskers would view Texas as a "rival." Perhaps a "hated opponent" or something, but not a rival.

As far as I know, Nebraska really only has one of those.

This is probably an unpopular opinion among other Aggies but I would have to say that A&M and Tech developed quite the rivalry with each other during the entire time we were in the Big 12, with Tech getting the better of us overall during that time ( Not sure of the spread but I'm sure it was 60/40 tech).
Do you remember when Tech beat us sometime around '05 or '06 and Leach said after the game "Sometimes a pirate beats a soldier"? It drove Techsters wild, and drove Aggies mad.
I always thought that Leach would have been wildly successful at A&M if we would have ever had the balls to hire him and he had the want to leave Tech (of course no way we could have hired him after the scandal that got him fired).

utee94 · « **Reply #103 on:** November 07, 2019, 08:17:15 AM »

Quote from: Gigem on November 07, 2019, 05:39:11 AM

So are you saying that A&M is Texas's biggest rival then?

Some Texas fans would say that. The majority have typically held OU as the biggest rival, but up until 2012 maybe 1/3 of Texas fans considered A&M to be the bigger rival. That number has of course dwindled since the Aggies departed for the SEC and the teams no longer play in football.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #104 on:** November 07, 2019, 08:33:02 AM »

aggie used to be our biggest rival but when they ran away I think OU filled that position

utee94 · « **Reply #105 on:** November 07, 2019, 11:06:55 AM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on November 07, 2019, 08:33:02 AM

aggie used to be our biggest rival but when they ran away I think OU filled that position

Just depends on who you talked to.

On every Longhorn message board I've ever been on before the Ags departed (which goes back to 1995 and includes austin360.com, Hookem.com, insidetexas, orangebloods, hornfans, and shaggybevo), any time this poll would come up it would end up about 2/3 in favor of OU as our biggest rival, and 1/3 as A&M. With a few old farts writing-in Arkansas, of course!

Now I'll admit that's not entirely scientific and it could be argued that internet message boards aren't a representative sample for a variety of reasons, including and especially the fact that the age demos skew younger than the actual fan base, but it's about all we have, and from my anecdotal sampling of family and friends, it's pretty much spot-on.

Even my parents who graduated from UT in 1963/1964 consider OU to be the bigger rival.

BrownCounty · « **Reply #106 on:** November 07, 2019, 02:46:15 PM »

Quote from: Gigem on November 07, 2019, 05:45:37 AM

This is probably an unpopular opinion among other Aggies but I would have to say that A&M and Tech developed quite the rivalry with each other during the entire time we were in the Big 12, with Tech getting the better of us overall during that time ( Not sure of the spread but I'm sure it was 60/40 tech).

Tech didn't know how to win with class. And frankly, Aggies saw it as way beneath them to lose to Tech. So mix these two together, and the hate simmered.

But with that being said, A&M would never dignify Tech as being a "rival".

The LSU rivalry thing is a manufactured rivalry. Those never work. Rivalries manifest from the inside-out. Not from the outside-in.

For Texas to join the SEC would be as good for the Aggies as for Texas. First off, you can bet the Longhorn Network would be gone if this were to happen. Secondly, one *real* rivalry would be restored, and A&M wouldn't be playing foreigners every week. But in trademarked Aggie tradition, A&M will shoot itself in the foot in order to spite Texas. A&M would never vote Texas in the SEC.

Mr Tulip · « **Reply #107 on:** November 07, 2019, 04:29:00 PM »

If I recall correctly, aTm and LSU used to have quite the string of non-con contests going before the Big 12 even came about.

CWSooner · « **Reply #108 on:** November 07, 2019, 07:35:59 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on November 06, 2019, 09:04:42 PM

Sure, but Nebraska lost to Texas 9 out of 10 times in the B12, oftentimes in gut-wrenching fashion, and still I don't think many Huskers would view Texas as a "rival." Perhaps a "hated opponent" or something, but not a rival.

As far as I know, Nebraska really only has one of those.

As far as I know, you are correct.
If the Huskers stay in the B1G for another 40 years, and get back to something resembling their 1970-1997 excellence, they might develop a rivalry with Wisconsin.

Gigem · « **Reply #109 on:** November 07, 2019, 11:10:40 PM »

I agree, Rivalry's can't be manufactured. Which is why it takes the other team winning a few, or winning one that sticks you and hurts you for a long time, to make a true rivalry. Just like last year's 7 OT victory where LSU had the game won 3-4 times but the refs kept helping us out. Money well spent in my opinion.

I've always thought though that it has a lot to do with the various alumni and fanbases rubbing elbows at places like work, church, etc where the true rivalry's are born. Everybody loves to rib their buddy when your team beats theirs and hates to be ribbed when you lose. Where I live and work there are actually quite a few LSU alums and Louisiana transplants who pull for LSU so there is sort of a natural rivalry but A&M just hasn't won enough games to really get it simmering. I look for that to change in the near future. We do have a lot of history with LSU as a non-conference opponent with 57 total games played and them having a 12 game advantage over us. In the 90's we were really putting the hurt on them until they canceled the last few remaining games allegedly due to the SEC changing format (CCG and expanding to 12 members).

utee94 · « **Reply #110 on:** November 08, 2019, 07:55:48 AM »

Those 80s/90s A&M-LSU games were great. I went to one with a girl I was dating at TAMU in...1991? !992? That was a fun weekend...

BrownCounty · « **Reply #111 on:** November 08, 2019, 08:21:40 AM »

Quote from: Mr Tulip on November 07, 2019, 04:29:00 PM

If I recall correctly, aTm and LSU used to have quite the string of non-con contests going before the Big 12 even came about.

Yes, and A&M has played Rice even more than LSU. Point?

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