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Topic: TCU coach Gary Patterson out after 21 seasons

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Re: TCU coach Gary Patterson out after 21 seasons
« Reply #56 on: November 05, 2021, 10:15:55 AM »
some interesting games Saturday, at least for me

huskers game at 11am, but I'll be checking WF @ UNC, Liberty @ Ole Miss, and Illinois @ Minnesoota

I'll be on the golf course at 2:30, but I think Purdue with their run defense has a chance to upset Michigan St.

Auburn @ A&M, Can Arkansas at home upset Mississippi St?  NC St @ FSU
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Re: TCU coach Gary Patterson out after 21 seasons
« Reply #57 on: November 05, 2021, 10:48:34 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 05, 2021, 09:12:30 AM
If TCU can recruit elite players, they can be relevant, and vice versa.
I’ll admit I don’t really follow the rankings that closely but have they ever really recruited elite?  Their mojo seems to be take 3* athletes no matter their position and mold them into their system at whatever position they can get the most production out of. Also they seemed to get a lot of transfers.  I know we’ve lost several to them over the years. 

I think a lot of schools make the mistake of trying to run the same systems vs the big boys with inferior talent. Mike Leach at Tech really showed the path on how to do this. Run a different system the other team doesn’t see very often, tailor it to find players you can actually recruit. All the coaches since Leach have done the traditional offense with piss poor showing. A&M made the same mistake with our last three coaches. We constantly whiffed on the best 4* players and the best of the 3* guys went to tcu and tech and ok state. 
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Re: TCU coach Gary Patterson out after 21 seasons
« Reply #58 on: November 05, 2021, 11:16:12 AM »
Leach had a high risk, high reward system at Tech. His teams could beat the "big boys" in the conference, but would also lose to the directional OOC schools. His fan base didn't mind the losses as long as they could crow about the wins. He was never going to win meaningful hardware with that scheme.
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Re: TCU coach Gary Patterson out after 21 seasons
« Reply #59 on: November 05, 2021, 11:36:08 AM »
It’s Tech. They’ve literally never won a conference championship in their entire history. They hardly ever recruit well. Their star players were accidents who panned out. 
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Re: TCU coach Gary Patterson out after 21 seasons
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2021, 11:45:55 AM »
like the Patrick Mahomes accident?
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Re: TCU coach Gary Patterson out after 21 seasons
« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2021, 12:10:33 PM »
Tenn at Kentucky is interesting.  Tenn is looking better and UK may be fading.  UK could still end up 10-2 if they can hold serve in this one.  They may still be somewhat depressed over the UGA outcome.  Tenn can score.

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Re: TCU coach Gary Patterson out after 21 seasons
« Reply #62 on: November 05, 2021, 01:28:24 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 05, 2021, 12:10:33 PM
Tenn at Kentucky is interesting.  Tenn is looking better and UK may be fading.  UK could still end up 10-2 if they can hold serve in this one.  They may still be somewhat depressed over the UGA outcome.  Tenn can score.
That's an interesting game for me.  UK's HFC is the "other" Stoops brother and Tennessee's head guy is OU's last NC QB, Josh Heupel.  I think I'll find myself rooting for Tennessee.
In the early '00s, it looked there was potential for Heupel to end up as the HFC at OU at some point and for former Texas QB Major Applewhite to end up doing the same at his alma mater.
It was interesting to think about, but doesn't look like it's ever going to happen.
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Re: TCU coach Gary Patterson out after 21 seasons
« Reply #63 on: November 05, 2021, 01:38:42 PM »
former great QBs at their alma mater don't always work out

See Michigan and Nebraska
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« Reply #64 on: November 05, 2021, 03:29:33 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 05, 2021, 11:45:55 AM
like the Patrick Mahomes accident?
I don’t particularly remember him being highly recruited. Neither was Baker. 
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« Reply #65 on: November 05, 2021, 03:42:44 PM »
nope, both 3 stars
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« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2021, 04:18:08 PM »
JFF was three stars, and Tannehill was either a 2 or 3 star player. Tannehill still starts in the NFL, going on 10 years. 
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Re: TCU coach Gary Patterson out after 21 seasons
« Reply #67 on: November 05, 2021, 07:00:16 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 05, 2021, 01:38:42 PM
former great QBs at their alma mater don't always work out

See Michigan and Nebraska
Ray Goff is another example, not great in college, but very very good, all conference I think.

UGA is honoring Marc Richt at Half time Saturday.
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