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Topic: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #280 on: September 27, 2022, 11:48:33 AM »
UT, LSU, Arky would be a tough draw in many years relatively speaking.

maybe, Arky wasn't that good only a few seasons ago, and I'm not going to talk about the Horns here.
Well, OK, the Horns do seem to have some voodoo stuff over the Aggies
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #281 on: September 27, 2022, 11:54:24 AM »
maybe, Arky wasn't that good only a few seasons ago, and I'm not going to talk about the Horns here.
Well, OK, the Horns do seem to have some voodoo stuff over the Aggies

Not really voodoo, unless you also think Nebraska had some sort of voodoo over, say, Missouri, historically.

Texas has simply been a better team for the majority of the existence of the series.  Strange things often happen in the TX-OU series, but in the Texas-TAMU series, the better team almost always wins.

The Ags had a decade-long streak in the 80s and early 90s where they won almost every game, because they were almost always the better team.  And in fact for the one season they lost to us (1990), Texas actually WAS the better team, the Horns were great that year (until they faced Miami in the 1991 Cotton Bowl).

Then when Texas got on a roll in the mid-late 90s and 2000s, they beat the Ags most of the time, because Texas was the better team most of the time.  No voodoo at all there.

Arguably TAMU has been the better team since they departed for the SEC, and would have won many/most of those games had they been played.  But we'll never know.

More to come in 2024, I suppose.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #282 on: September 27, 2022, 06:11:03 PM »
2-9 is actually pretty impressive, mathematically,  considering A&M and LSU have met only 10 times as SEC-mates. 

I appreciate trying to give us the extra win, but if we're going that route, LSU is actually 11-2 against the Aggies in that span, due to 2018 wherein the Tigers won the game 3 times before losing it. 
Mea culpa. I counted the 2011 bowl game, one year before we started sec play. 

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #283 on: September 28, 2022, 09:42:42 AM »
Von Miller's last game, iirc. Patrick Peterson's too.  Two NFL standouts.  

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #284 on: October 19, 2022, 12:46:48 AM »
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Oklahoma and Texas will remain in Big 12 through 2025, Big 12 commissioner says
Eli Lederman
10/18/2022

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Oklahoma and Texas will remain in the Big 12 Conference through the remainder of the league’s current grant of rights before departing for the SEC in 2025, Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark said Tuesday afternoon.

“They’re going to be here through ‘25,” Yormark told reporters at Big 12 Basketball Tipoff inside Kansas City’s T-Mobile Center. “They’ve committed themselves in advance of me getting here and they’ve reiterated that commitment. So they’ll be here through the duration (of the grant of rights). And my relationship with both Texas and Oklahoma is very, very strong. And they are full members and we’re looking forward to working with them.”

Yormark’s latest comments on the future of the conference and the impending exits of OU and Texas come in a moment of continual Big 12 churn.

Last week, representatives from both OU and Texas were present for league meetings in Dallas with the remaining Big 12 schools and incoming conference additions BYU, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF. Among the topics settled, per multiple reports, was the adoption of a temporary scheduling format for the 2023 and 2024 football seasons, reflecting an expectation that the pair of departing schools will remain in Big 12 after the four future schools arrive in 2023.

On Tuesday, Yormark confirmed the format will not include divisions and will preserve long-standing rivalry games such as the Bedlam series between OU and Oklahoma State. The Big 12 intends to adopt similar formats for the men’s and women’s basketball schedules during those seasons, allowing every school to meet at least once over the two-year period.

Yormark’s assertion around an exit date for OU and Texas also arrives as the the Big 12 has held continued talks over a new media rights deal with broadcast partners Fox and ESPN.

The former Brooklyn Nets and Roc Nation executive expressed confidence on Tuesday that the league could reach an agreement on a new deal before the exclusive negotiating window opens in February 2024.

“My gut tells me we something done before then,” Yormark said. “Very optimistic.”

Regardless of when OU and Texas leave for the SEC, both schools will be required to pay an agreed-upon exit fee of $80 million. Per Sports Illustrated’s Ross Dellenger, the schools would owe the league a “cumulative, estimated price tag of more than $100 million” if they leave before the end of the league’s current grant of rights, which expires on June 30, 2025.

As things stand, Yormark said, the Big 12 is proceeding with the expectation that OU and Texas will not attempt to negotiate an early exit.

“My conversations with Oklahoma and Texas have always been about being great members until they leave, which is in ‘25,” Yormark said. “And the experience has been very positive so far.”

Yormark said at Big 12 Media Days in July that he was “not against” engaging in early negotiations with the pair of departing schools, but noted that he would step into those conversations with particular stipulations.

“I’m sure there’s going to be a moment in time where we’re going to sit down, discuss the future,” he said on July 13. “But any situation like this, I always look for a win-win scenario. That being said, it’s important that whatever happens is in the best interest of this conference.”

Yormark formally replaced longtime Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby on Aug. 1, nearly 12 months to the date from when the SEC announced that OU and Texas would join the conference no later than July 1, 2025.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #285 on: October 19, 2022, 12:53:30 AM »
Pardon my language. No fucking way that is true. 

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #286 on: October 19, 2022, 07:14:06 AM »
It might or might not be true, but the B12 commissioner is about the last person that's going to know when Texas and OU actually plan to leave.  As long as the negotiations are underway, the official word from both schools MUST be 2025.  

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #287 on: October 19, 2022, 09:40:46 AM »
Odd wording in this article, and confusing.  "Through 2025" implies that the schools remain in Big 12 play for the '25 season.  Elsewhere it references expectations of the schools joining the SEC in July of 2025, which is not "through 2025" and implies they would play in the SEC for the '25 season. 

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #288 on: October 19, 2022, 04:59:07 PM »
As I understand it, he meant "through the 2024-25 academic year."
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #289 on: October 20, 2022, 10:17:27 AM »
I have been under a misimpression. I have thought that the 2023 and 2024 schedules would be mirror images of each other, but apparently not so. The goal is that all 14 teams will play each other at least once over the course of the two years.

That assumes that OU and Texas are staying through the 2024-25 academic year, of course.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #290 on: October 20, 2022, 10:41:38 AM »
I have been under a misimpression. I have thought that the 2023 and 2024 schedules would be mirror images of each other, but apparently not so. The goal is that all 14 teams will play each other at least once over the course of the two years.

That assumes that OU and Texas are staying through the 2024-25 academic year, of course.

I'd be very surprised if that happened.

So, I expect that the "traditional" B12 schools are going to want to get their final pound of flesh from TX and OU by having them at home next year in 2023, regardless of where the games were played in 2022.  I'd expect our departing schools to get screwed pretty hard on scheduling, which is just one more reason the university presidents and ADs of TX and OU can't afford to linger another year after that.


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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #291 on: October 20, 2022, 11:21:05 AM »
Surely they can't make the schools play a bunch of away games just because other schools "want their pound of flesh."  That would be disaster on AD revenue and surely there's precautions in place for that, and legal recourse if it's not honored.  

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« Reply #292 on: October 20, 2022, 11:24:29 AM »
Surely they can't make the schools play a bunch of away games just because other schools "want their pound of flesh."  That would be disaster on AD revenue and surely there's precautions in place for that, and legal recourse if it's not honored. 
No they can't make us play any more than half our conference games away.

What I'm saying is that the "left behind" schools, are going to want to get their more than their fair share next year, regardless of where the game was played this year.

I expect them to throw their weight around as the continuing members, and force the new additions to take whatever is left.

And I'd expect more scheduling shenanigans to continue the following year, which is just one more reason to move as early as possible.

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #293 on: October 20, 2022, 11:40:20 AM »
Well the easy solution is to just leave now :)

See you next year, Longhorns and Sooners.  The line to wait in while a front office staffed with a bunch of Bama grads ignores you forms just over there --->>


 

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