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Topic: North Carolina hires Mack Brown

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #126 on: October 02, 2019, 08:44:18 AM »
Had OU failed to score and Georgia wins the game you might have felt differently
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #127 on: October 02, 2019, 10:10:42 AM »
Same scenario applies if UNC had kicked for the tie.

No, it's not the same, because if you are behind you have four downs to employ.  If you are tied, you have only three until you reach near midfield or have 10 seconds left.

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #128 on: October 02, 2019, 10:12:00 AM »
The average two-point conversion rate was just over 40 percent in 2016. (in college).


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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #129 on: October 02, 2019, 02:26:49 PM »
Had OU failed to score and Georgia wins the game you might have felt differently
Perhaps.  But I told my wife before we even kicked the ball that I thought it was the wrong decision.
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #130 on: October 02, 2019, 02:32:40 PM »
With the OU offense, I would have been worried had they gone for it, I probably was relieved they kicked it.


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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #131 on: October 02, 2019, 03:24:57 PM »
The average two-point conversion rate was just over 40 percent in 2016. (in college).


that was 3 long years ago!
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #132 on: October 02, 2019, 03:25:50 PM »
No, it's not the same, because if you are behind you have four downs to employ.  If you are tied, you have only three until you reach near midfield or have 10 seconds left.
If you're tied, y'all still have 4 downs to employ
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #133 on: October 02, 2019, 03:27:03 PM »
No, it's not the same, because if you are behind you have four downs to employ.  If you are tied, you have only three until you reach near midfield or have 10 seconds left.

Point taken.

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #134 on: October 02, 2019, 03:56:53 PM »
If Clemson it tied and gets the kick off on their 25 and gains 4 yards in 3 plays, they will punt (assuming they can't run the clock to zero).

If they are behind and gain 0 yards on three downs, the go for it, by necessity.




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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #135 on: October 02, 2019, 04:10:32 PM »
probably
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #136 on: October 03, 2019, 12:56:42 PM »
Well, not probably, if you are tied with a minute left and don't get that first first down, you punt in all cases unless maybe it's 4th and one.

If you are behind a point, you go for it even on 4th and 20.

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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #137 on: October 03, 2019, 01:46:02 PM »
There are some intangibles at work there.

Would the team down one point with a minute to play succeed in getting into FG range because it will play with abandon, or will it choke under the pressure and not even make a first down, maybe turn the ball over?  Would that same team playing under the less desperate circumstances of a tie move the ball right down the field into FG range, or even score a TD?

Would the team with the lead play prevent defense, risking giving up too much yardage but preventing a big play, or go all-out to force a turnover on downs, thereby risking a big play?  Or would that same team in a tie situation take for granted that the other team is just going to let the clock run, and thereby get caught napping?
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #138 on: October 04, 2019, 12:18:13 PM »
we shall never know...........

this is why, even knowing the outcome of the game, we don't know if the decision was the correct one
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Re: North Carolina hires Mack Brown
« Reply #139 on: October 04, 2019, 02:48:35 PM »
We may not even know, in some cases, that we don't know, I don't know.

I would have kicked personally, thought so at the time, but I like that he sent a signal to his team.  They might win another couple of games just because of it.

 

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