header pic

The SEC Forum at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: Longhorn Football

 (Read 131151 times)

CatsbyAZ

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 2984
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #812 on: October 17, 2023, 09:32:13 AM »
Anyway...

Horns have to play Houston this weekend, AT Houston. This was likely a barb aimed directly at the Texas administration, who have refused to play Houston in any major sport, ever since the event called "Bleachergate."

UH declined because they wanted to host the game in their own stadium and maintain some sort of homefield advantage, which is totally understandable.

Ha(!), what a time capsule!

I specifically remembering watching this game as a Ninth grader living in Texas at the time.

Though I don’t remember the announcers discussing the bleacher situation, I still remember the sideline reporter’s take on how important it was for Houston to play this game on their campus. Found confirmation(!), from a younger Holly Rowe at the 7:20 mark of the below video:

“This rivalry started back in 1968, but right now it’s very one sided. A rivalry really only for the University of Houston. They are playing this game on their own campus but they are outnumbered by Longhorn fans. Dana Dimel, the coach of Houston, is trying to build a program. He turned down big money offers to move this game elsewhere. Saying ‘We have to play on campus.’ Houston is a huge recruiting area for them and the University of Texas. 26 players on the Longhorns roster are from Houston and this area. Six of those starters. This is a big game for Mack Brown because he is at the heart of his recruiting area.”

What I remember even more is this game occurring on the first weekend of play in the aftermath of the Sept 11th attacks (11 days earlier). To commence the broadcast, ESPN2 televised the National Anthem, Moment of Silence, and the God Bless America rendition.



Full Game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1atqIvvxgo

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 19992
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #813 on: October 17, 2023, 09:43:31 AM »
Good stuff, thanks @CatsbyAZ !

Houston has always, obviously, been important recruiting grounds for UT.  It's why we often schedule 2-for-1s against Rice, not because they have any leverage, but because we WANT to play in the city of Houston.  It's good for recruiting presence, and it's good for our rich donors in the area to get a game near their homes.

We play the TX-OU game every year at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas, otherwise we'd likely also schedule SMU regularly, for the same reasons.


MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 3061
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #814 on: October 17, 2023, 11:07:35 AM »
People have suggested we move Arkansas home games to Shreveport or Monroe, similar to how Arkansas used to play their home games with us in Little Rock, citing some of the same reasons.  I can't see how that makes any sense whatsoever. 

The Texas situation may be very different.  

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 3061
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #815 on: October 17, 2023, 11:19:41 AM »
It's always easier for a fan, after a close loss, to see the mistakes that his own team made than to see the mistakes that the other team made.


Quote
Utee94:  And it's always easier for a fan, after a win, to gloss over the mistakes that the other team made, that handed his team the victory.

Etc.


S'why y'all need a neutral observer to smack you around.

I volunteer Fearless, but if he declines, I'm willing and able.  

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 19992
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #816 on: October 17, 2023, 11:35:35 AM »
People have suggested we move Arkansas home games to Shreveport or Monroe, similar to how Arkansas used to play their home games with us in Little Rock, citing some of the same reasons.  I can't see how that makes any sense whatsoever. 

The Texas situation may be very different. 
Arkansas traded us off every other time.  So for example in 1983 we played in Little Rock, in 1985 we played in FayetteNam, 1987 Little Rock, etc.

I guess if Shreveport or Monroe are considered to be an important part of the home recruiting base, it might make sense to play there occasionally?  I won't claim to know anything about recruiting in Louisiana.

For Texas we get the advantage (as does OU) of playing a very high profile game in Dallas every single year.  The recruiting benefits to both schools are apparent.  But we don't play regularly in Houston, maybe once every 7,8,9 years?  It's nice for the Houston local UT fans and for recruiting, but it's not so important that it needs to be biannual or something.


FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 41519
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #817 on: October 17, 2023, 06:04:24 PM »


S'why y'all need a neutral observer to smack you around.

I volunteer Fearless, but if he declines, I'm willing and able. 

I'm "N"
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 19992
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #818 on: October 18, 2023, 07:53:13 AM »
Yeah Fearless is "neutral" like a fox guarding a henhouse.

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 19992
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #819 on: October 19, 2023, 08:38:10 AM »
Heh, speaking of the B12 sticking it to Texas with respect to scheduling Houston, here's the way our schedule versus the Coogs broke down in ALL sports for this academic year:


SoccerAway
VolleyballAway x2
FootballAway
Men's BasketballHome & Away
Women's BasketballAway
Women's TennisAway
BaseballAway
SoftballNot yet scheduled


I think it's safe to say this was intentional, from the B12 front office.

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 3061
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #820 on: October 19, 2023, 10:15:01 AM »
Is Oklahoma getting the same treatment?

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 19992
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #821 on: October 19, 2023, 10:24:51 AM »
Is Oklahoma getting the same treatment?
Not sure.

With respect to Houston, I doubt it.  That's personal between UT and UH.

But some general squirreliness?  Could be.

Thumper

  • Red Shirt
  • ***
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 480
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #822 on: October 22, 2023, 07:29:44 PM »
Is Oklahoma getting the same treatment?
Nope, OU got a favorable shake IMO. 

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 19992
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #823 on: October 23, 2023, 10:23:00 AM »
Well that game was too close for comfort.  I only caught some of it since I was out at the race track all weekend.

Not sure about Ewers status, we might find out more in the PC at 11 AM today.


CWSooner

  • Team Captain
  • *******
  • Posts: 6217
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #824 on: October 23, 2023, 11:16:17 AM »
Well that game was too close for comfort.  I only caught some of it since I was out at the race track all weekend.

Not sure about Ewers status, we might find out more in the PC at 11 AM today.
U.S. Grand Prix, wasn't it?
Play Like a Champion Today

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 19992
  • Liked:
Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #825 on: October 23, 2023, 11:35:55 AM »
Yup, US Grand Prix at Circuit of the Americas in Austin (actually, just outside of Austin, but close enough).

Always a fun weekend out there, we take the RV and camp the whole time, to avoid all of the traffic/parking headaches of getting in and out of the venue each day.  It's also like one giant tailgate party all weekend.  I could use a couple days off to recover... :)


 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.