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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #476 on: January 10, 2023, 11:39:02 AM »
AP Top 25 is out, Horns hang on at #25.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #477 on: January 10, 2023, 11:40:41 AM »
  • Georgia (63 1st-place votes)
  • TCU
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  • Ohio State
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #478 on: January 10, 2023, 11:56:15 AM »
is this 2022 or 2023
Final AP Poll for the 2022/3 season.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #479 on: January 10, 2023, 11:58:06 AM »
I would have dropped TCU to 3rd or 4th.
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #480 on: January 10, 2023, 12:04:07 PM »
I would have dropped TCU to 3rd or 4th.
I guess the voters respected the fact that TCU had to play an extra game, and that they beat Michigan fair and square between the white lines.  I'm okay with the ranking, it's not like anything other than #1 really matters anyway.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #481 on: January 10, 2023, 12:34:46 PM »


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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #482 on: January 10, 2023, 08:33:27 PM »
I guess the voters respected the fact that TCU had to play an extra game, and that they beat Michigan fair and square between the white lines.  I'm okay with the ranking, it's not like anything other than #1 really matters anyway.

The plaque for alternates is down in the ladies' room. :)
There's no objectively right or wrong answer, but here's my thinking.
TCU's regular season was impressive, but not dominant. They beat SMU by 8, Kansas by 7, oSu by 3 in 2OT, and Baylor by 1.
TCU didn't win the Big 12 CCG. They lost it in OT to a team that got smoked in the Sugar Bowl.
In the CFP semis, they narrowly beat Michigan, who was the B1G champion and who stomped Ohio State in the regular season. That would have ensured them at least a #2 final ranking.
Except that in the NCG they lost in the biggest blowout in bowl game history.
I think that Michigan, at 13-1, despite its 6-point loss to TCU, produced a better body of work than TCU at 13-2.
The case for Ohio State, at 11-2, passing TCU would be much weaker. I'd stick with TCU at #3.
As you say, all that matters (nowadays) is #1.
Once upon a time that was not the case. It was a thing that at least seemed to matter when FSU went a dozen or so years finishing in the AP top 5.
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #483 on: January 10, 2023, 09:31:17 PM »
Yup, really nobody remembers a few years later who finished #2.  I looked it up and it turns out Oregon actually won their first CFP game and lost the final.  I guess I remembered they made it to the CFP at some point but I have no recollection of those games actually occurring.

In college football, we talk about the Top 25, the Top 10, and the champ.  Those are the accepted annual benchmarks for "good, better, best" and years later, there's little or no discernable difference between #2 and #10.


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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #484 on: January 11, 2023, 10:54:15 AM »
Maybe for the fans there is.  

I enjoyed when LSU finished in the top 5 several years in a row, I know many other fans did too.  I recall many Longhorn acquaintances in Austin who were proud of the fact Texas had finished with X consecutive 10-win seasons.  

Things like that probably don't matter to cfb fans in general, but they may well matter to a particular team's fans.  

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« Reply #485 on: January 11, 2023, 10:59:22 AM »
Maybe for the fans there is. 

I enjoyed when LSU finished in the top 5 several years in a row, I know many other fans did too.  I recall many Longhorn acquaintances in Austin who were proud of the fact Texas had finished with X consecutive 10-win seasons. 

Things like that probably don't matter to cfb fans in general, but they may well matter to a particular team's fans. 

Sure, but of course I am speaking about cfb fans in general.

I'd always rather see my team finish #2 than #10.  And I'd rather finish #11 than #25.

But years later, it all gets truncated and compiled and collated into who won the NC, who finished Top 10, who finished Top 25. 
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #486 on: February 02, 2023, 01:13:03 PM »
I figure a top 5 finish suggests your team was competitive with anyone, but slipped up somewhere.  A second 5 finish probably means you were almost competitive and could beat anyone at times, but likely didn't.  I also like to think about a kind of "Las Vegas Power Ranking" which would order teams according to some theoretical spread, e.g., maybe UGA and Bama would have a spread of UGA -3 or somesuch, and so on.  That would likely end up with OSU at 2 and Bama at 3 and Michigan at 4 ... TCU might be 12.

I'm just musing about how worried I'd be if my team played "X".

Now, to be more fair, TCU lost the TO battle 3-0 to UGA, and frankly they seemed struck by the lights.  If they played again, maybe the score is a lot more respectable, say 34-17 or something.  Was UGA really the best team?  Maybe, but I think it's close, and they could have lost to Bama/OSU/Michigan/Tenn without it being a shocker, to me.


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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #487 on: February 02, 2023, 01:34:41 PM »
TCU didn't play its best game against Georgia.  Georgia didn't play its best game against Ohio State.  Ohio State didn't play its best game against Michigan.  Michigan didn't play its best game against TCU.

Only one of those teams in that circuit didn't play its best game and yet survived with a win.   That's the stuff a championship team is made of.


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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #488 on: February 02, 2023, 01:38:56 PM »
I think Ohio State was pretty good (duh).

But this thread is about Texas, sort of ...

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #489 on: February 02, 2023, 01:42:17 PM »
I think Ohio State was pretty good (duh).

But this thread is about Texas, sort of ...
Thread titles are mostly дезинформация (dezinformatsiya).
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