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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #462 on: December 14, 2022, 11:31:33 AM »
Good point, the fan themselves are changing.  Some of it is corporate, but I also think a current "average fan" is now more interested in distractions (including but not limited to cell phones), than an "average fan" was 20 or 30 or 40 years ago.

But I do sometimes wonder how loud/crazy fans were, back in the 40s/50s/60s?  The vintage pictures I see show men dressed in suits and hats, women dressed in dresses and finery.  Were they all that loud and obnoxious?  Were they reserved and refined?

Is our view of what a "fan" should be, limited by our experience, which is largely in the 70s-thru-present?


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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #463 on: December 14, 2022, 12:04:19 PM »
and then the Sooners proceeded to go 3-6 in conference
the same as the Huskers

it's about the coaching - not the jumbotron
Amen, brother!
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #464 on: December 30, 2022, 07:14:41 AM »
I watched portions of the game last night and my impression was, bear with me, this is a shocker, the Texas OL is not very good.


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« Reply #465 on: December 30, 2022, 07:18:03 AM »
I watched portions of the game last night and my impression was, bear with me, this is a shocker, the Texas OL is not very good.


It's actually better than it was a year ago, believe it or not.

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« Reply #466 on: December 30, 2022, 10:09:57 AM »
Good point, the fan themselves are changing.  Some of it is corporate, but I also think a current "average fan" is now more interested in distractions (including but not limited to cell phones), than an "average fan" was 20 or 30 or 40 years ago.

But I do sometimes wonder how loud/crazy fans were, back in the 40s/50s/60s?  The vintage pictures I see show men dressed in suits and hats, women dressed in dresses and finery.  Were they all that loud and obnoxious?  Were they reserved and refined?

Is our view of what a "fan" should be, limited by our experience, which is largely in the 70s-thru-present?
I think I went to my first college football games in 1965. We went to a couple of TU (U. of Tulsa) games that year. Jerry Rhome had been runner-up for the Heisman the year before, and the team had beaten Ole Miss in the Bluebonnet Bowl, so there was some juice around the football program. '65 was another good year, another trip to the Bluebonnet Bowl (a loss to Tennessee) and another Heisman runner-up in Howard Twilley. It's hard to recall what the fans were wearing, but I'm pretty sure that most people were not wearing blue-and-gold attire that they would not wear in a normal business or social environment. I remember that the band--which was small--wore black slacks, gold lame' jackets, and black derby hats. The Tulsa program went downhill later in the decade, and so did our attendance at games. The father of a friend of mine took both of us to the Tulsa-North Texas State game in Denton in his Beech Bonanza in 1967. I don't remember much about that game except that Tulsa got drilled.

Next college football game I went to was my freshman year at OU, 1972. I was in a fraternity and I sat in the card section. I generally wore slacks, white shirt, a red tie (or bow tie) and a sweater vest with a red "driver cap." Nobody, but nobody, was painted up red and white. One guy named Cecil Samara always dressed in red and white, and he was a sort of self-made celebrity for doing that, plus driving a red-and-white Ford Model T named the Big Red Rocket. The game was the focus. The fans were there to watch the game, not to get on TV, and TV did not continually pan the stands looking for goofballs. In fact, only one or two games a year were televised. There was no canned nose, musical or otherwise. except for updates of scores in other games and some announcements at halftime. No jumbotron telling us to make noise. There was cheering when things went well, and booing of the officials when they made bad calls (i.e., calls that went against us), but there was no requirement or expectation that fans were there to generate constant noise. One of the male cheerleaders, a few times each game, would lead the crowd in "When I say Red, you say White/When I say Go, you say Fight."

I think that there was somewhat more choreographed jackassery going on by the 1976 season. By about 1980, the card section was abolished because the students threw their cards in the air after they were done. Those cards were heavy, and they could hurt if they hit you.
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« Reply #467 on: December 30, 2022, 11:57:11 AM »
Thanks for the details and perspective.  

It's interesting to me how the sport, and the spectacle, has changed over the years.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #468 on: December 30, 2022, 12:04:22 PM »
I was at UGA '72-'75 and went to a few games.  The stadium seated 64,000 and was rarely anywhere near full, or very loud.  Folks did dress up, but as noted, no one was outrageous.  TV was very rare.  I think student tickets cost a buck each.

I was at UNC '75-'80 and never attended a game, I could hear the crowd when I'd go to work on Saturdays, they sounded polite.


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« Reply #469 on: December 30, 2022, 01:14:06 PM »
Thanks for the details and perspective. 

It's interesting to me how the sport, and the spectacle, has changed over the years.
It's hard to compare what I experienced at 18 to what I now experience at 68. Everything is different, not the least my expectations, and memories are imperfect.

Also, much changed between 1976 and 1996, when I next attended an OU game. (It was a blowout loss to Kansas, and that was a major change in itself.) So, it's hard to grasp what changed when.

I attended Army football games for 3 years in the '90s, and I enjoyed them. I encountered tailgating for the first time. 38,000-seat Michie stadium was never full. Expectations were not the highest. It was fun to be with my friends/colleagues in the stadium discussing the game as it progressed and cheering when good things happened for the Army team. I never attended an Army-Navy game, but it was obviously a more pressurized atmosphere than Army vs. Gerry Faust's Akron Zips.

But here in 2022, it seems to be an order (or two) of magnitude less enjoyable to go to a game than it was 50 years ago. I imagine that it is less enjoyable to attend Army games now than it was in the '90s as well.
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #470 on: January 02, 2023, 05:39:35 PM »
In 1979 when a Southern Cal team full of all-stars came into Tiger Stadium and the outgunned Tigers nearly pulled it off, the crowd atmosphere is legendary.  To this day many fans swear there has never been anything like it in Tiger Stadium, which is saying something.  Bear Bryant claimed that playing at LSU was not fair because of the shape of the stadium and how it trapped the noise inside and funneled it to the field, and that it was not a good place for a visiting team (despite that they usually won in Baton Rouge).  I believe he said that during the 60's. 

I can't speak for the rest of cfb, but the Louisiana crowd seems to have been raucous well before my time.  

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« Reply #471 on: January 02, 2023, 06:59:55 PM »
Thats interesting

Feel free to set up a LSU Football thread
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #472 on: January 02, 2023, 08:48:28 PM »
You get coal in your stocking this year or something? 

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« Reply #473 on: January 02, 2023, 08:53:18 PM »
You get coal in your stocking this year or something?
Nope just thought Id offer some good ol Texas hospitality

We Horns want our future SEC brother to feel welcome
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« Reply #474 on: January 03, 2023, 01:09:57 AM »

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« Reply #475 on: January 03, 2023, 01:48:00 AM »
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

 

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