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longhorn320

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Longhorn Football
« on: July 21, 2022, 07:57:12 PM »
The NIL as bad as I think it is for college football seems to be providing the Horns with some key prospects

Namely our offensive line future is getting better by the minute

We might even have a decent OB or two so who knows

Now if Sark and his crew will just develop them properly we could be back
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2022, 08:19:39 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 21, 2022, 07:57:12 PM
The NIL as bad as I think it is for college football seems to be providing the Horns with some key prospects

Namely our offensive line future is getting better by the minute

We might even have a decent OB or two so who knows

Now if Sark and his crew will just develop them properly we could be back

Horns aren't loaded like the late 90s and early 2000s but we've had good enough players to beat the West Virginias and Kansases and Marylands of the world for the past decade.  What's been missing is coaching.  I guess we'll see if that changes.
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2022, 08:25:28 PM »
Our chances are improving daily

The spring game was interesting

I just hope we find some kind of defense

It cant be worse then last year
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2022, 08:38:34 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 21, 2022, 08:25:28 PM
It cant be worse then last year

...probably not?  Hope springs eternal of course.
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2022, 08:47:46 AM »
I probably harp on it too much, but I think the biggest boon to Texas this season was the NCAA allowing position coaches time on the field and film room with the players over the summer.

That is, Kyle Flood got a massive (literally) influx of talent. Ordinarily, that talent would be a year at least away from contributing. My hope right now is that the extra time this summer elevated several of them to, if not "starter", then at least "key contributor".

Recall last season when Sark and Co took over. We were still in pandemic restrictions. He couldn't meet or socialize with his players. We knew there were problem players not committed to the mission. The coaches couldn't do much about that.

Once the season starts, the OL coach can't do a lot to fix fundamental flaws. Too much has to be muscle memory at that point, and there simply isn't enough time in the week to do much else besides implement game plans. The time for growth is the offseason.

I believe everyone in our QB room can operate this offense sufficiently. Someone will be chosen QB1. I don't really care who it is. If they're given 4 seconds to work, then play Texas Fight.

If not, it doesn't matter who it is. We'll be "Five Coaches on the Hot-Seat" Twitter takes.
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2022, 08:56:11 AM »
What would be considered "a pretty decent year" for Sarkisian to survive in decent shape?  Not a miracle year, but a pretty good year.

10-2?  I'd think 8-4 would be disappointing, 9-3 would be decent ...
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2022, 09:39:30 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 22, 2022, 08:56:11 AM
What would be considered "a pretty decent year" for Sarkisian to survive in decent shape?  Not a miracle year, but a pretty good year.

10-2?  I'd think 8-4 would be disappointing, 9-3 would be decent ...
If the fans see sufficient improvement in both the defense and the OL then a 8-4 year would probably be good enough

A lot depends on just who you lose to.  Outside of OU and Alabama the fans expect a win and anything less would be very disappointing.  A win over either OU or Bama would mean a whole lot
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2022, 11:04:27 AM »
Coming from 5-7, there's a lot of room for improvement and I think that's what Longhorn fans need to see.  8-4 would be an improvement.  Of course, if it included 49-7 and 65-13 blowout losses to Alabama and OU, then it wouldn't be much fun, and I wouldn't have much reason to expect eventual success under the current staff.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2022, 11:44:55 AM »
Coaches are judged by their W-L records, but that can be a tricky metric.

The collection of better talent isn't always the better team.  And the better team doesn't always win.  And the W-L record for a given season can be deceptive.  Sometimes a team is better than its record; sometimes it's worse.

As examples, OU under Muleshoe lost twice each to Iowa State and Kansas State teams with inferior talent.  And last year's 11-2 season was deceptive, as the Sooners went 6-1 in games decided by one score.  A 9-4 or 8-5 record might have been a more accurate reflection of the team's level of excellence.

I would think that the eye test of how well the team is playing, as well as the W-L record, would (or should) be part of the test of Sarkesian's improvement in Year 2.

Who's winning the battles on the line, the offense's ability to close out a game, the defense's ability to get 3rd-down stops--factors like that that should reflect the W-L record, but sometimes don't do so all that well.
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2022, 12:01:35 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on July 22, 2022, 11:44:55 AM
Coaches are judged by their W-L records, but that can be a tricky metric.

The collection of better talent isn't always the better team.  And the better team doesn't always win.  And the W-L record for a given season can be deceptive.  Sometimes a team is better than its record; sometimes it's worse.

As examples, OU under Muleshoe lost twice each to Iowa State and Kansas State teams with inferior talent.  And last year's 11-2 season was deceptive, as the Sooners went 6-1 in games decided by one score.  A 9-4 or 8-5 record might have been a more accurate reflection of the team's level of excellence.

I would think that the eye test of how well the team is playing, as well as the W-L record, would (or should) be part of the test of Sarkesian's improvement in Year 2.

Who's winning the battles on the line, the offense's ability to close out a game, the defense's ability to get 3rd-down stops--factors like that that should reflect the W-L record, but sometimes don't do so all that well.

Agree with you in general.  5 of 7 Texas losses last year were by one score or less.  Several of them, including the loss to your Sooners, the Horns were up by double digits at the end of the 3rd quarter.

But then again, that's also an issue.  If a team can squander that much of a lead, over and over again, then that's a massive failure as well.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2022, 12:08:40 PM »
Squandering leads is definitely an issue.

How about "almost squandering leads"? That's an issue that doesn't seem all that important until the "almost" part of it disappears.
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2022, 12:33:56 PM »
I'd rather be on the positive side of that ledger, than the negative one.

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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2022, 12:44:27 PM »
I know how y'all feel
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Re: Longhorn Football
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2022, 12:45:20 PM »
Sucking sucks.
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