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utee94

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Re: Beer
« Reply #490 on: October 10, 2022, 10:28:47 AM »
You might not care that it's been that way for a thousand years, but the point is that it's not "adding something" to beer.  It's all just beer.  It's been that way for as long as "beer" has existed in Europe.  Nothing has been added that is not an acknowledged and accepted part of "beer."

Taking your argument you could say that beermakers are "adding something" when they include hops.  While that might be technically true, it's not considered beer, without the hops.  And adding TOO much hops results in crappy-tasting American IPAs, but not adding any hops would be just as bad.

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Re: Beer
« Reply #491 on: October 10, 2022, 10:32:46 AM »
anything beyond the 4 basic ingredients of beer "could be" considered adding something

anything made with one of those 4 missing could be considered - not beer

you know... like adding beans to chili 
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« Reply #492 on: October 10, 2022, 10:35:49 AM »
anything beyond the 4 basic ingredients of beer "could be" considered adding something

anything made with one of those 4 missing could be considered - not beer

you know... like adding beans to chili
Not really.

Even the Germans don't follow the Reinheintsgebot and they invented that definition.

Many types of lambic beer require-- by definition-- the inclusion of fruit.  

There are no 4 ingredients to beer.  Never have been.

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Re: Beer
« Reply #493 on: October 10, 2022, 10:41:16 AM »
Well, I like basic kinds, mostly ales and lagers ...

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« Reply #494 on: October 10, 2022, 10:45:17 AM »
Many types of lambic beer require-- by definition-- the inclusion of fruit. 

fruit that they added to perfectly good be the produce a specific type

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« Reply #495 on: October 10, 2022, 11:08:45 AM »
fruit that they added to perfectly good be the produce a specific type

utee likes to argue about beer
It's a subject I know and love.

And the Flemish monasteries were making beer-- without and without fruit-- centuries before the proto-Germans ever imagined such a thing.  Your narrow view of what beer should be, is shaped by the tedious rules and regulations established by the Germans in order to illegalize the products of other beer-producing regions that were much older and better at it.

So you're literally taking the beer-nazi view of things.


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« Reply #496 on: October 10, 2022, 11:21:41 AM »
Well, I like basic kinds, mostly ales and lagers ...
Well we can certainly agree on that!

And I'll go a little further, and say that I mostly prefer lagers in the summer, and ales in the winter, although there are a few exceptions either way.

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Re: Beer
« Reply #497 on: October 10, 2022, 11:49:46 AM »
I don't like Belgian beers at all, not a single one I've had ever.  I don't consider them real beer obviously.  This new fangled trendy stuff is not for me.

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« Reply #498 on: October 10, 2022, 12:08:50 PM »
Ha!

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« Reply #499 on: October 10, 2022, 08:36:21 PM »
blatant pot stirring isn't nearly as effective
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« Reply #500 on: October 12, 2022, 12:13:22 PM »
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« Reply #501 on: October 12, 2022, 12:31:59 PM »
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« Reply #502 on: October 13, 2022, 10:51:10 AM »
anything beyond the 4 basic ingredients of beer "could be" considered adding something

anything made with one of those 4 missing could be considered - not beer

you know... like adding beans to chili
Shut your whore mouth

 I don't care for wheat beer either
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« Reply #503 on: October 13, 2022, 11:00:29 AM »
It's a subject I know and love.

And the Flemish monasteries were making beer-- without and without fruit-- centuries before the proto-Germans ever imagined such a thing.  Your narrow view of what beer should be, is shaped by the tedious rules and regulations established by the Germans in order to illegalize the products of other beer-producing regions that were much older and better at it.

So you're literally taking the beer-nazi view of things.
Stick to smokin' your meat or sipping Tito's,next time I'll just send fearless to do my easy work

But while beer's popularity waned in the Middle East, it was gaining ground in northern Europe. People there somehow figured out brewing (perhaps via another soggy-bread epiphany) by at least 800 B.C., based on beer residues in a Celtic amphora found in modern Bavaria. Dornbusch says the Romans were the first to invent the modern brewing process—involving malting and mashing—based on the ruins of a 179 A.D. brewery discovered in a Roman settlement near what is now Regensburg, Germany.

Not a fruit sippin' Belgian or Texican amongst them
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