~2017 NFL Thread~

[Brutus Buckeye]

[Mdot21]

Subbing out Gronk for those guys in the white and black striped jerseys is why Belichick is a genius.

having Tom Brady fall out of the heavens into his lap in the 6th round is why he is a "genius".
Watched the first two episodes of that Tom vs. Time documentary. Unbelievable the level of commitment and the amount of work that guy has put into making himself into what he is. Unbelievable story really. He's worked his ass off to become what he is. He is Peyton Manning but clutch. Manning couldn't run a lick either, never had the strongest arm either. Just deadly accurate and incredibly smart with a football IQ off the charts and prepared like no other QB before had. Brady is virtually the same guy but clutch. Manning folded far too often in the biggest moments in the biggest games, that had been his MO since college. Brady just seems to play better the bigger the stage the greater the pressure.
Probably my two favorite QB's ever because of how fricken smart and accurate they were. Neither one of them had the physical tools of a Cam Newton or Big Ben, or the incredible arm like a Rodgers or Marino. Just way smarter, more prepared, and more accurate than everyone.

[ELA]

I've always thought Brady had an underrated arm

[Mdot21]

I've always thought Brady had an underrated arm

his arm strength is pretty good, but it's not jaw dropping. he can make all the throws and zip it in there when he needs to, but it's not anything that makes you go wow.
Stafford's arm is jaw dropping. Rodgers' arm is jaw dropping. Flacco's deep ball is jaw dropping- the distance he can throw flat footed is crazy.
Where Brady's arm is flat out scary/jaw dropping is the pin point accuracy. Not sure there has ever been a more accurate thrower of the football in the NFL. He's had to hone his accuracy because for the most part he's played with little midget receivers his entire career. Outside of about the 2 hours he had Randy Moss and outside of Gronk most of the guys he's throwing to have been 5'9, 5'10, 5'11- guys who have a shorter catch radius and who need the ball put on them. His accuracy to me is just otherworldly. Rodgers and Brees are up there too in that department.

[betarhoalphadelta]

Most accurate QB in the league is Drew Brees, hands down. He's set the NFL completion percentage for a season 3 times... In 2009 he beat a record that had stood since 1982. In 2011 he beat his own record. In 2016 Sam Bradford held the top spot for a year, but this year Brees said "no, son, imma show you how it's done" and beat Bradford's record.

Drew Brees has 5 seasons better than Brady's best, and 9 seasons better than Brady's second-best. 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_single_season.htm

Brady's a great QB, but I think no matter how you slice it, Brady/Brees/Rodgers are the 1a/1b/1c of "the best QB's in the league". I don't think you can really separate them much.

But when you're talking specifically about accuracy, I think Brees has shown that he's the top dog, with margin. 

(And no, you can't just compare rings -- there's so much more to winning Super Bowls than just the QB.)

[MrNubbz]

Brady is so dialed in,the concentration coupled with performance when all the chips are down it's damn near other worldly.One thing his receivers thru the years seem to have hung on to the ball.

[ELA]

Brady's a great QB, but I think no matter how you slice it, Brady/Brees/Rodgers are the 1a/1b/1c of "the best QB's in the league". I don't think you can really separate them much.

Eh, I agree there's more than rings, but IMO it's Brady #1, then Brees and Rodgers are 2a and 2b in some order.

[ELA]

And Nick Foles was MSUs 3rd string QB in 2007?

[rook119]

Apparently a Big 12 game breaks out when you have a couple Lions coaching the D

For as much as I hate the pats every one of their SBs have been at least very good

[ELA]

Amazing how much tougher it is to win a Super Bowl when the opposing team doesn't gift it to you with dipshit playcalling

[MichiFan87]

Nights like tonight are when I'm glad I don't live in Philadelphia anymore. I've been listening to police broadcast, which I found through a twitter search about post-game riots, and it sounds as bad or worse than I would've expected.... Even worse than the chaos after the Cubs won it all.

[MaximumSam]

Hell of a game.  Not sure when Nick Foles turned into John Elway

[MaximumSam]

Also, the playcalling resembled a college game, which is likely why it was so successful and fun to watch

[ELA]

Also, the playcalling resembled a college game, which is likely why it was so successful and fun to watch

Rams and Eagles were fun teams to watch all year.
I think the Lions may have landed their next dud.