~2017 NFL Thread~

[ELA]

Steelers Super Bowl hopes hinge on KC and Jacksonville winning this weekend.

[ELA]

Belicheck is by far the best coach of the free agency era. He's won w/ or without Brady. I

Um, what?
He's been a head coach for 23 seasons.  He's had Brady as his starter for 16 of those seasons, and made the playoffs in 15 of them (all but 2002).  He hasn't had Brady as his starter in 7 of them (including the season Brady was knocked out in the opener) and he's only made the playoffs in 1 of them (1994 with Cleveland).

[betarhoalphadelta]

Um, what?
He's been a head coach for 23 seasons.  He's had Brady as his starter for 16 of those seasons, and made the playoffs in 15 of them (all but 2002).  He hasn't had Brady as his starter in 7 of them (including the season Brady was knocked out in the opener) and he's only made the playoffs in 1 of them (1994 with Cleveland).

He took Cleveland to the playoffs? Someone alert the Pope. A few more miracles like that and he's eligible for sainthood!

[ELA]

He took Cleveland to the playoffs? Someone alert the Pope. A few more miracles like that and he's eligible for sainthood!

They went 6 out of 10 years from 85-94, they've just only gone once since.

[Mdot21]

Um, what?
He's been a head coach for 23 seasons.  He's had Brady as his starter for 16 of those seasons, and made the playoffs in 15 of them (all but 2002).  He hasn't had Brady as his starter in 7 of them (including the season Brady was knocked out in the opener) and he's only made the playoffs in 1 of them (1994 with Cleveland).

Yeah I'm with you ELA.
I think he's the best coach of his era, can't argue with results and I give him a lot of credit for drafting Brady in the 6th when the entire league passed on him 6 times, and even more credit for sticking with Brady over Bledsoe. But his drafting has been pretty horseshit overall and for being a supposed defensive genius he sure hasn't put a defense on the field remotely resembling a dominating unit in a long time. Ravens have had much better defenses during the era he's been coaching.
It is kind of freaking funny though when people say oh he's won without Brady. Really? What has he won? He was a sub .500 coach at Cleveland, made the playoffs once in 4-5 years then got fired. He started off in New England his first year 5-11 with Bledsoe as his QB. Started off 0-2 the second year. Bledsoe goes down, Brady goes in and the rest is history. He was 5-13 his first 18 games in NE before Brady and the coaches on that staff were convinced they were all about to be fired. Charlie Weis has spoken about that openly. Cassell went 10-5 that one year Brady got hurt with a LOADED team. NE missed the playoffs. Jimmy G/Brissett combined for 3-1 against a very weak 4 game schedule. They didn't score a single point against division rivals the Bills with those two at QB. At home. Brady comes back few weeks later drops 40+ on the Bills. In Buffallo.

Bill hasn't won jackshit without #12. 

[betarhoalphadelta]

They went 6 out of 10 years from 85-94, they've just only gone once since.

Ahh, but I just realized that was the team that became the Baltimore Ravens... They got successful enough to leave Cleveland 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FN_aHlcYxU

[Mdot21]

Gruden to the Raiders. $10 million per year, 10 years, total deal worth $100 million.

Half of the Tennessee fan base probably still thinks he's coming to Knoxville though.

[Mdot21]

former Michigan players OL Steve Hutchinson and CB Ty Law both named finalists for the NFL HOF. Don't know if they'll both make it, but I feel like they both should be in. Hutchinson for sure. He was probably the best guard of his era in the NFL. Ty Law's numbers speak for themselves, 50+ INT's and 8 defensive TD's in the reg season. More if you add the playoff stats. Was a crucial piece to a dynasty that won 3 SB's, owned Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison in the playoffs and made the play in that Super Bowl against the greatest show on turf when he picked off Kurt Warner and returned it 47 yards for a TD. Law probably should've been Co-MVP of that Super Bowl at worst. He had 8 tackles, 2 PBU's, 1 INT and the TD.

[CatsbyAZ]

Watching this Chiefs-Titans wildcard game and it's clear:

- The Chiefs have played in playoff games and the Titans haven't

- The success of Alex Smith really depends on the offensive game plan going according to pre-game script.

[MaximumSam]

Hell of a finishing drive for KC

[rook119]

Um, what?
He's been a head coach for 23 seasons.  He's had Brady as his starter for 16 of those seasons, and made the playoffs in 15 of them (all but 2002).  He hasn't had Brady as his starter in 7 of them (including the season Brady was knocked out in the opener) and he's only made the playoffs in 1 of them (1994 with Cleveland).

He won with Matt freaking Cassel. Grappolo came in and they didn't miss much. He also won the SB when Brady wasn't all that and put up more than a few 150 yard passing games early in his career. Went to 7 freaking SBs and is 5-2 in them. That is just crazy in the salary cap era. 
He can patchwork a solid D out of mediocre players. Players for whatever reason go to the Pats and get better. I hate the Pats but he's an all time great coach. 

[MaximumSam]

Titans get a TD pass from Mariota to himself, and they are back in business

[MaximumSam]

And Henry breaks a long one and this is a one score game

[MaximumSam]

Titans go back up by one, but their decision to go for two earlier means KC can win with a field goal