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bayareabadger

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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2022, 11:32:01 PM »
wonder if this whole thing was done to try and keep Jim Leohnard. Maybe they were afraid someone was going to poach him this off-season and figured they might as well give him the try out and if he shows anything at all rest of this season they'll make it permanent.
People keep floating this, but I honestly think they're too smart for that. 

Like, what jobs would Leohnard not leave for UW? I'm not saying that in a conceited way. But he'd basically have to be given one of the 12-14 really good jobs and be pretty successful. Like, if he is good at Nebraska, and UW calls, he's probably coming. Like, unless he replaced Franklin, Harbaugh or Day, is there a Big Ten job you think he could jump start and wouldn't leave for Madison. I'm looking at other conferences. Maybe a couple ACC jobs, neither of which are opening, same for the Big 12, same for the Pac-12. I could see a few SEC jobs at that level. But honestly, unless you hand hi a blue blood, I think he's leaving anywhere for UW.

The guy is maybe the most UW man alive. He's the greatest walk-on in program history. He comes from a town the size of a fingernail. He got hired with basically no experience at the school and thrived. 

So if he left, big whoop. He'd come back when the time came. Chryst almost did, but for some recommendations Barry made, and two years later, it happened anyway. 

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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2022, 02:47:18 AM »
Wisconsin AD Chris McIntosh said he fired Paul Chryst because it is “what is in the long-term best interest of our football program”

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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2022, 06:36:44 AM »
People keep floating this, but I honestly think they're too smart for that.

Like, what jobs would Leohnard not leave for UW? I'm not saying that in a conceited way. But he'd basically have to be given one of the 12-14 really good jobs and be pretty successful. Like, if he is good at Nebraska, and UW calls, he's probably coming. Like, unless he replaced Franklin, Harbaugh or Day, is there a Big Ten job you think he could jump start and wouldn't leave for Madison. I'm looking at other conferences. Maybe a couple ACC jobs, neither of which are opening, same for the Big 12, same for the Pac-12. I could see a few SEC jobs at that level. But honestly, unless you hand hi a blue blood, I think he's leaving anywhere for UW.

The guy is maybe the most UW man alive. He's the greatest walk-on in program history. He comes from a town the size of a fingernail. He got hired with basically no experience at the school and thrived.

So if he left, big whoop. He'd come back when the time came. Chryst almost did, but for some recommendations Barry made, and two years later, it happened anyway.



Yeah, no doubt he'd crawl across broken glass for a non-blue blood that just fired a guy who won over 70% of his games. 
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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2022, 08:19:42 AM »
At 16 million left on his contract you would crawl too Brutus with out regard to winning %
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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2022, 08:27:08 AM »

Yeah, no doubt he'd crawl across broken glass for a non-blue blood that just fired a guy who won over 70% of his games.
My friend, this is not in touch with the situation described. Unless a future coach is fired after winning 70 percent of his games, and if that happens, then we’ve got a whole different situation. 

Also, probably would. 

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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2022, 08:38:28 AM »
My friend, this is not in touch with the situation described. Unless a future coach is fired after winning 70 percent of his games, and if that happens, then we’ve got a whole different situation.

Also, probably would.
Chryst had a .729 winning percentage. 

It's worse than Nebraska firing Pelini for winning 9 games per year. A lot worse. 

At least Nebraska is a blue blood, and Pelini had non-football related baggage. 

It's going to take a guy who loves Wisconsin like a son, because no one else is going to a non blue blood that fires a serviceable HC mid season after a few dud games. 

all of this jmho, obviously. 
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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2022, 08:57:10 AM »
So what look at Ohio State under Cooper with an embarrassment of riches dropped in his lap annually. While proven winners like Tressel waiting in the wings.  With Leipold making immediate strides in football hell,worse case Leonhard or Aranda. Unfortunately PC caught a string negative mojo he couldn't shake he had what 7 yrs - he won't be missing any meals
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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2022, 01:52:55 PM »
Wisconsin AD Chris McIntosh said he fired Paul Chryst because it is “what is in the long-term best interest of our football program”
so, is there something else going on with Chryst besides the record?
and is King Barry not influencing the AD???
What does Barry have to say about this?
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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2022, 02:14:15 PM »
Personally, I've always really liked Chryst.

With zero knowledge of what's going on in Madison, I didn't think it was time yet, but...


  • 2020 was excusable because of COVID, but that team wasn't very good;
  • 2021 was excusable, but the Penn State loss was ugly, the collapse against ND was ridiculous, the blowout at home to Michigan was poor, and the loss to Minnesota was hard to stomach. That team had a decent record, but wasn't nearly as good as we expect Badger teams to be. So excusable, but that's a decent number of excuses adding up
  • 2022: losing at home to Wazzu was a very bad sign. Getting curb-stomped at OSU was notable (losing at OSU is one thing, but it was much, much worse than merely losing). Losing to an improved Illinois is one thing; not being competitive is entirely another.
  • It's not just the losses, it's the manner of the losses. When Wisconsin plays Wisconsin football--solid offensive line, clock control, discipline, and scrappy defense, but comes up short against 5- and 4-star players at Ohio State, that's ok (although Chryst was 0-5 against the Buckeyes, which starts to be a bit much). If the quarterback isn't playing well, but the team grinds out yards, controls the clock, and just wears out at the end, that's something we're used to. But this team isn't that. This team doesn't block well and isn't disciplined (e.g., nearly 70 penalty yards per game), and the team captains have identified players quitting as a problem. That all suggests a deeper problem. 
  • I know fans are almost never happy, but when former players are also starting to identify problems, that requires a little attention.


So from my perspective, while this seemed early, it isn't quite as reactionary as some people seem to think. And I've seen a lot of talk on this board and elsewhere about Ferentz and Iowa. I know that Wisconsin fans don't want to be Iowa. This decision is consistent with that.

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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2022, 04:54:39 PM »
Don't have time to comment on this, but it had to be done, and yes, King Barry had a say.

And the buyout will not be $16MM. 
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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2022, 06:23:18 PM »
Yeah, I guess he has been pretty mediocre since 2020. 
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Re: Wisconsin reportedly firing Paul Chryst
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2022, 06:31:55 PM »
the buyout might not be $16, but it will be substantial

unless there are other factors with the firing
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