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Topic: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC

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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #182 on: October 01, 2018, 09:50:35 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 01, 2018, 09:45:50 PM


Now, read this expert analysis.
hah!

better off reading my analysis
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #183 on: October 01, 2018, 09:50:46 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 01, 2018, 09:33:48 PM
It tells you all you need to know.
No it doesn't Trace could have swung immediately wide right.Herbstreit,Tim May(columbus Dispatch),the Buckeye Roundtable and Blue-White Illustrated - ya know guys who get payed to cover the game say hello.
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #184 on: October 01, 2018, 09:51:26 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 01, 2018, 09:45:21 PM
that play is SO poorly blocked, it's hard to tell it's an offensive play
if McSorely was reading the play, it wasn't a poor read
If he wasn't reading the play and simply handing off, it was supposed to give the appearance of a read/option to decoy the defense
Obviously can't determine intent by the film.  Gotta take the player's and coach's word for the intent from the post game comments
Yes, and the only thing they said about intent was they thought they saw something in OSU defensive alignment.  But you can attack that multiple ways.
If it was a straight run, even the worst coach would not try to attack it with a read option that had no option, because you would be taking a knife to a gunfight, by trying to block 7 guys with only 6.  Clearly, the option to keep was immediately the better option, but it was closed off by OSU instantly.  
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #185 on: October 01, 2018, 09:53:45 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 01, 2018, 09:45:21 PM
Obviously can't determine intent by the film.  
Thank You FF you get a cookie
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #186 on: October 01, 2018, 09:54:52 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 01, 2018, 09:50:46 PM
No it doesn't Trace could have swung immediately wide right.Herbstreit,Tim May(columbus Dispatch),the Buckeye Roundtable and Blue-White Illustrated - ya know guys who get payed to cover the game say hello.
Omg dude.where is there post game analysis?  Your grasping at straws.  Read the ONLY post game expert analysis posted above.   
When your wrong your wrong.  
You are right about one thing, and all the talking heads agree.  It was not a good play selection in that situation.  It called for a perfectly executed O-Line against a much better defensive line.
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #187 on: October 01, 2018, 09:57:34 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 01, 2018, 09:53:45 PM
Thank You FF you get a cookie
When you can show me expert analysis ( not just talking bobble heads) that agrees with your theory, I will think your on to something.
I just posted definitive film analysis that proves what I am saying.  Do you still dispute it?
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #188 on: October 01, 2018, 09:57:59 PM »
attacking it with a read/option look causes the defense to account for the QB keep, the QB throwing in the flat or to one of the two WRs on the left.  It takes 4 or 5 defenders out of the straight run play

like I said, you can't tell the intent of the play, but it's possible the read/option was merely window dressing for a straight run up the gut
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #189 on: October 01, 2018, 10:01:26 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 01, 2018, 09:33:48 PM
Ok Super.   Watch this a couple times, every single player.
Then tell me if this is a draw play, with a straight face lol.   It’s not about who is right, it’s about the film.  It tells you all you need to know.
https://imgur.com/tZ0sbc7.gif
No, it’s about what the egos here have turned into. People on this board used to talk football and approach each other with respect ,even when their perception of reality was on different sides of the aisle. Now, the second someone disagrees, it turns into name calling and mocking. It’s honestly sad. It’s a reflection of what social media has done to society.
I have no idea what the play was supposed to be. I do know Ohio State blows it up, which tells me it was a bad play call and a well executed play and defensive call. 
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #190 on: October 01, 2018, 10:10:35 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 01, 2018, 09:57:34 PM
When you can show me expert analysis ( not just talking bobble heads) that agrees with your theory, I will think your on to something.
I just posted definitive film analysis that proves what I am saying.  Do you still dispute it?
You obviously chose not to read my earlier posts from experts not named Honest Buckeye
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #191 on: October 01, 2018, 10:18:20 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 01, 2018, 10:10:35 PM
You obviously chose not to read my earlier posts from experts not named Honest Buckeye
I have read everything you have posted.  No analysis with film.
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #192 on: October 01, 2018, 10:20:06 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on October 01, 2018, 10:01:26 PM
No, it’s about what the egos here have turned into. People on this board used to talk football and approach each other with respect ,even when their perception of reality was on different sides of the aisle. Now, the second someone disagrees, it turns into name calling and mocking. It’s honestly sad. It’s a reflection of what social media has done to society.
I have no idea what the play was supposed to be. I do know Ohio State blows it up, which tells me it was a bad play call and a well executed play and defensive call.
Well your partially correct, about the society part. When presented with facts, and film to back it up, people will just create their own narrative.  Ego has nothing to do with the person presenting facts and evidence.   
But thanks for your lesson master.  
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #193 on: October 01, 2018, 10:23:50 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 01, 2018, 09:45:21 PM
that play is SO poorly blocked, it's hard to tell it's an offensive play

This is the thing.  The play call is irrelevant if it's blocked poorly.
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #194 on: October 01, 2018, 10:26:41 PM »
I love how everyone here can't even come to a consensus on the play call here, but so many just chalk it up to a bad play call.


Not all good play calls succeed.  It could be a perfectly-chosen play and still fail.  If you knew what the coaches knew and saw what they saw, those of you lambasting the call might've made the same exact call 100 out of 100 times.


Idk if it's ego or MMQBing or what, but it's silly.
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Re: White Out Your Life 9/29/18 SOC
« Reply #195 on: October 01, 2018, 10:27:36 PM »
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