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Topic: Which was the worse regression? - VOTE

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Which was the worse regression? - VOTE
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2026, 01:49:54 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 26, 2026, 01:15:11 PM
17 is too many.
361 comp on 562 att (64.2%) for 5,188 yds with 41 TD and 28 INT.......155.9 rating
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This is a Heisman-winner's stat line (otherwise unrelated to this thread)
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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2026, 02:05:07 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on May 26, 2026, 12:36:54 PM
Eh. Player A's interceptions per attempt is between players B and C.

Yes, but we're not comparing year 2.

We're comparing regression/cliff between year 1 and 2.

 34 TD with 12 INT 

 22 TD with 17 INT
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2026, 02:08:14 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 26, 2026, 11:20:50 AM
I know its about the player but I'm guessing player A's team was decidedly worse in winning percentage in the 2nd season

because TD/INT
Kinda-sorta.....but the WHY behind the TD/INT is revealing....
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2026, 03:20:49 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 26, 2026, 02:08:14 PM
Kinda-sorta.....but the WHY behind the TD/INT is revealing....
Led me down a weird rabbit hole about that offensive coordinator in the second year
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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2026, 04:09:25 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 26, 2026, 02:05:07 PM
Yes, but we're not comparing year 2.

We're comparing regression/cliff between year 1 and 2.

 34 TD with 12 INT

 22 TD with 17 INT
Fair, but I also think going from 6 INT in year 1 to 10 INT in year 2 is pretty bad, especially since TDs went from 7 to 4. Oh, and rushing went from 2.7 ypc and 8 TDs to 0 ypc and 2 TDs. 

With that, I think you can still justify that the regression for player C was worse. 
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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2026, 04:27:42 PM »
Yes, it's between A & C.

Rushing stats for A would be nice. 

12 fewer TDs and 5 more INTs is impressive 
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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2026, 04:28:11 PM »
The one on the loosingest team
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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2026, 03:01:43 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on May 26, 2026, 04:28:11 PM
The one on the loosingest team
Player A:  10-2 to 8-5
Player B:  11-1 to 11-1
Player C:  9-2 to 3-6-1

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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2026, 07:14:25 AM »
yikes!
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2026, 10:27:26 AM »
Player A:  Heisman runner-up --------->  n/a
Player B:  3rd in Heisman voting -------->  6th in Heisman voting
Player C:  Heisman winner ---------->  n/a
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I think this is a little eye-opening, where player B seems to have had the least of a drop-off, but to remain in the top 6 for the Heisman with the passer rating drop-off for a low-volume QB seems odd to me. 
This is fun, though.
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2026, 12:57:51 PM »
Wow... I should rescind my vote now that I know we're talking about ancient history. 
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« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2026, 03:17:59 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on May 27, 2026, 12:57:51 PM
Wow... I should rescind my vote now that I know we're talking about ancient history.

What does that matter?  
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« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2026, 03:46:45 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 27, 2026, 03:17:59 PM
What does that matter? 
It matters, to me, because football has changed over time. I was thinking of these players with some level of framing of the modern game of football. And I was able to figure out when player C was active based on your context given. 

I don't know what time frame players A and B are from--I'm guessing A is far more recent than C because of the passing volume. Didn't figure out who A and B are, but I also think it's possible B is more recent and is specifically an option or dual-threat QB. 

But if I'm trying to compare regression based on a framing that it was mostly modern players, and now I have to compare players that very well might be spread across decades, and I don't know what era they played in, I don't have the context to evaluate disparate statistics. 

So when I say "rescind my vote" it's more that I'm not sure I can entirely justify an opinion when I don't have enough facts to do so. I don't want to pollute your poll with flawed reasoning just because I assumed player C wasn't playing two decades before I was born. That era was when I [obviously] wasn't following college football and I haven't really learned enough about the era to evaluate player stats. 
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Re: Which was the worse regression? - VOTE
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2026, 04:32:01 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 27, 2026, 03:17:59 PM
What does that matter? 
I’d second that the context of a bad passing season is pretty notable. 

Like the second season for A would be quite bad today, decidedly better in 1999 and still quite solid in 1980. 

(Used those hints to figure out both of them. I’d still stick with C as the worst regression. And find B amusing and interesting)
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