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Topic: Which fans had the worst year?

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Cincydawg

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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2018, 11:32:40 AM »
They could have a "Co-Big Ten East Champion" banner.  If they wanted.

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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2018, 11:50:17 AM »
Allow me to disagree, and let me make the exhaustive case.
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That pass game sucked. It's around No. 100 in efficiency. Hornibrook regressed. None of the receivers have done a damn thing, and that line, that damn line, has let QBs get hit again and again. UW fell from an average pass pro team to No. 91, and some of the biggest mistakes came when someone tried to make a play under presser. 
Pre-injury, Hornibrook was Hornibrook. The guy makes bad decisions (15 INTs last year, 11 this year, but 3 of those in the Minnesota game), but also looks great at times, particularly at key moments in close games (against Iowa, for instance). The bigger issue you identified in another post--the offensive line wasn't as good as advertised. They blocked for the run pretty well, but the pass protection was woeful pretty often, which makes any quarterback look bad, and makes the offense one dimensional, which makes defending it a lot easier.

The ending with Minnesota put Hornibrook's decision making front and center again, but I tend to agree with many who wonder why it wasn't Coan after Hornibrook's head injury had sidelined him so much. I'm normally the first to defend the coaches' personnel decisions, so on this one, I have to think that Chryst was confident Hornibrook was looking better. He didn't play it, and it doesn't take many bad decisions from the QB to really tank a game.

And while we're talking turnovers, Taylor has improved, but lost two key fumbles against Northwestern. Curiously, the only loss in which the Badgers didn't turn the ball over at least twice was BYU (though missing field goals is a lot like turnovers--or shanked punts). The Badgers were tied for 86th in turnover margin. Ouch. Only Minnesota, Illinois, and Rutgers were worse in the Big Ten. (Last year the Badgers were 30th.)

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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2018, 11:56:52 AM »
They could have a "Co-Big Ten East Champion" banner.  If they wanted.
That's what Harbaugh's dad wants.
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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2018, 12:53:54 PM »
I know, I wish they'd do that.

The Bama players took their runner up trophy from 2016 and smashed it to pieces.

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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2018, 01:20:25 PM »
I know, I wish they'd do that.

The Bama players took their runner up trophy from 2016 and smashed it to pieces.
To me, it depends on what the conference recognizes, and I don't know the answer.
In the pre-division days, all of the co-champs were equally Big Ten champs, the tiebreaker just determined who got to go to the Rose Bowl.  The co-champs who didn't were no less champs than those who did.  Their prize was just less.
Is that how the conference recognizes division champs?  Is OSU the sole division champ?  Or does the Big Ten recognize co-division champs, with OSU just winning the tiebreaker to go to the conference title game?  If it's the later, I don't really have a problem with it I guess.  If it's the former, then they are making something up, and that's a little weird.

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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2018, 01:26:09 PM »
Yeah, if everyone plays everyone and it's 2 "co-champs," there's really one champ. 
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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2018, 06:12:09 PM »
Pre-injury, Hornibrook was Hornibrook. The guy makes bad decisions (15 INTs last year, 11 this year, but 3 of those in the Minnesota game), but also looks great at times, particularly at key moments in close games (against Iowa, for instance). The bigger issue you identified in another post--the offensive line wasn't as good as advertised. They blocked for the run pretty well, but the pass protection was woeful pretty often, which makes any quarterback look bad, and makes the offense one dimensional, which makes defending it a lot easier.

The ending with Minnesota put Hornibrook's decision making front and center again, but I tend to agree with many who wonder why it wasn't Coan after Hornibrook's head injury had sidelined him so much. I'm normally the first to defend the coaches' personnel decisions, so on this one, I have to think that Chryst was confident Hornibrook was looking better. He didn't play it, and it doesn't take many bad decisions from the QB to really tank a game.

And while we're talking turnovers, Taylor has improved, but lost two key fumbles against Northwestern. Curiously, the only loss in which the Badgers didn't turn the ball over at least twice was BYU (though missing field goals is a lot like turnovers--or shanked punts). The Badgers were tied for 86th in turnover margin. Ouch. Only Minnesota, Illinois, and Rutgers were worse in the Big Ten. (Last year the Badgers were 30th.)

I might dig in deeper at some point, but I’ll say this. 
The pass game was highly efficient last year. This year, even before the injuries, it was not. I think AH got too much blame, but he deserves some, no doubt.

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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2018, 06:19:46 PM »
What happened to Wiscy's defense?

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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2018, 06:31:44 PM »
What happened to Wiscy's defense?
The injury bug bit early and often. Combine that with a ton of (yet-to-be-developed) youth and that's what you get.
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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2018, 06:45:46 PM »
Now it's official. Louisville had the worst year.

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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #52 on: November 29, 2018, 07:45:44 AM »
So I gotta ask, since I'm not up-to-snuff on Wisconsin's injuries - of their 4 OL on the preseason All-B10 team, how many actually warrant it now?  I thought it was lazy to begin with.
According to the media vote yesterday? 
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I am not seeing that.
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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2018, 09:15:19 AM »
going into the off season, I'd say Auburn fans have to feel like their program is on pause at best.   That Athletic Department has handcuffed their program. 

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Re: Which fans had the worst year?
« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2018, 09:26:50 AM »
I know I'd be confused as heck were I one.

Disappointed and confused.

 

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