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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12530 on: November 19, 2025, 11:21:24 AM »
Hadn't thought about that, but yeah.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12531 on: November 19, 2025, 12:20:07 PM »

https://twitter.com/Legal_Fil/status/1990948001511305446?s=20


I get the joke, but I don't think I'll ever get used to the name "Gulf of America" and am likely to refer to it as the Gulf of Mexico for the rest of my life.  

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12532 on: November 19, 2025, 02:05:28 PM »
I'm with you, I just usually say The Gulf.  

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12533 on: November 19, 2025, 05:03:31 PM »
I get the joke, but I don't think I'll ever get used to the name "Gulf of America" and am likely to refer to it as the Gulf of Mexico for the rest of my life. 
happens with grumpy old men
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12534 on: November 19, 2025, 08:08:52 PM »
Just hailed here for 15 min straight. Looks like it snowed.  Crazy intensity in these super-cell events.  Trees broken, debris all over, very short-lived.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12535 on: November 20, 2025, 07:52:00 AM »
I'm with you, I just usually say The Gulf. 
Same.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12536 on: November 22, 2025, 09:49:55 AM »
https://www.reteuro.co.uk/22-165166-historic-winter-la-nina-polar-vortex/

Signals in the upper atmosphere and the ocean are starting to line up. If they sync at the wrong moment, the United States could be staring at weeks of bitter cold and frequent snow, with ripple effects from airports to grocery shelves.

Why La Niña and the polar vortex matter
Two big climate engines drive this risk. La Niña has strengthened in the tropical Pacific, favoring a jet stream pattern that tilts storm tracks into the northern tier while keeping the South closer to average or slightly warm. At the same time, meteorologists are watching for a sudden stratospheric warming—an event that can distort the Arctic polar vortex and shove frigid air deep into mid-latitudes.


When a sudden stratospheric warming knocks the polar vortex off balance, Arctic air can spill south for days or even weeks.

Climatologist Judah Cohen has long tracked the link between early-season stratospheric disruptions and harsh winters. In previous years with a significant SSW, cold outbreaks reached farther south and lasted longer than typical Arctic blasts. A December event can shape January outcomes, especially when the background ocean pattern—this year La Niña—feeds a more energetic jet.


What a sudden stratospheric warming actually does
High above the Arctic, temperatures in the stratosphere can spike by tens of degrees Celsius in a matter of days. That quick warming disrupts the tight circulation that normally corrals cold air near the pole. The vortex weakens or splits, and the pattern below reconfigures.

Think of the polar vortex as a spinning top. A sharp jolt aloft can tilt it, wobble it, and aim its cold core toward North America.

During the last major early-season disruption in December 2000, parts of the north-central U.S. sat below freezing for extended stretches, with snow piling up through repeated waves. Not every SSW repeats that footprint, but the risk profile changes when the vortex loses symmetry.

How La Niña tilts the deck
La Niña describes cooler-than-normal waters in the eastern tropical Pacific. That cool pool shifts tropical thunderstorms and nudges the winter jet stream. In a classic La Niña winter, the northern U.S. trends colder and wetter, the Pacific Northwest turns stormy, and the southern tier often runs warmer and drier.

La Niña loads the dice for a North-favored storm track; a polar vortex disruption can turn those loaded dice into prolonged cold.

When both features appear together, forecast confidence can dip because they tug the pattern in different ways. That is why late November becomes pivotal: by then, upper-air data typically reveal whether a stratospheric warming is imminent and how forcefully La Niña is steering the jet.


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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12537 on: November 22, 2025, 09:56:50 AM »
https://www.reteuro.co.uk/22-165166-historic-winter-la-nina-polar-vortex/


Why La Niña and the polar vortex matter
Why really Hot Air and really Cold Air matter

Ain't it great how these tossers gussie up the names of simple weather patterns? Yet stiil can't get a 2-3 Day Forecast right ::)
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12538 on: November 24, 2025, 07:44:47 AM »
Frost on the roofs & lawns at wake up, it is going to be a cold Turkey Day this year in Northeast Ohio. Highs on Thanksgiving will only be in the low 30s. Gusty winds will put wind chills in the upper teens and lower 20s. It will also be snowy for some. The cold air moving over Lake Erie will trigger lake effect snow showers. Could make even a 9 mile ride to sister's place seem dicey.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12539 on: November 24, 2025, 08:12:46 AM »
tis the season

weather turning seasonal here to

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12540 on: November 24, 2025, 08:19:32 AM »
FOOTBALL WEATHER
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12541 on: November 24, 2025, 08:40:50 AM »
Ed Zachery!

Unfortunately, no snow expected down south in Lincoln on Black Friday
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12542 on: November 24, 2025, 11:47:45 AM »
tis the season

weather turning seasonal here to



Too damn early to be that damn cold!

8 degrees?  Sheesh.  High of 19 on Monday?  No thanks.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12543 on: November 24, 2025, 12:09:39 PM »
could have easily had this weather a month ago

we've been blessed with a balmy fall

I'm kinda glad we're gonna git some temps chilly enough to make a batch of chili
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