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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11228 on: November 01, 2024, 09:31:40 AM »
We just need a Dyson sphere. 


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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11229 on: November 01, 2024, 12:19:06 PM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11230 on: November 01, 2024, 07:42:34 PM »
hopefully nothing that will impact Iowa or Austin, TX
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11231 on: November 01, 2024, 08:56:45 PM »
Both are doomed. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11232 on: November 02, 2024, 10:00:41 AM »
A question I've been pondering is "peak oil usage".  I posted a prediction on this on the other thread showing it would be about 2035.  That sounds about right, at some point EVs will cut into petroleum needs/demand.  Then what?  Well, oil producing entities will have to cut production of course to keep prices up somewhere, though I expect price erosion will happen, probably oil wars, economically speaking.  Eventually, at some point, we'll be awash in oil that no many need or want.  We still need it for chemical production and a lot of transportation will need it, but less than today by enough to matter.

Will lower prices then feedback into making EVs less competitive?

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11233 on: November 02, 2024, 10:38:41 AM »
Snow in Hawaii, a place worth seeing if you ever have a chance.


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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11234 on: November 03, 2024, 08:50:16 AM »
been there, seen that
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11235 on: November 03, 2024, 08:50:35 AM »
A question I've been pondering is "peak oil usage".  I posted a prediction on this on the other thread showing it would be about 2035.  That sounds about right, at some point EVs will cut into petroleum needs/demand.  Then what?  Well, oil producing entities will have to cut production of course to keep prices up somewhere, though I expect price erosion will happen, probably oil wars, economically speaking.  Eventually, at some point, we'll be awash in oil that no many need or want.  We still need it for chemical production and a lot of transportation will need it, but less than today by enough to matter.

Will lower prices then feedback into making EVs less competitive?
I hope so
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11236 on: November 03, 2024, 08:54:15 AM »
My guess is producers will try and mirror the drop in demand such that the price doesn't drop much if any, but some might cheat.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11237 on: November 03, 2024, 08:58:05 AM »
yup, those folks will get desperate 
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11238 on: November 03, 2024, 09:01:23 AM »
I THINK countries like Qatar and the UAE and SA are planning for that day when they have to trim production.  It's years off of course, they can invest in other stuff.  The city of Dubai is an example, a dusty desert town transformed completely into a very modern large city now.  They do need some kind of other industry, and I think they also have other issues.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11239 on: November 03, 2024, 09:03:38 AM »
been there, seen that
Me too. In Chicago. Not flying to Hawaii to see more snow.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11240 on: November 03, 2024, 09:07:30 AM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11241 on: November 03, 2024, 09:18:09 AM »
The top of Mauna Kea is "other worldly".  I've never visited a place that looked like I'd expect Mars to look to that extent.  You can't get to the top of Mauna Loa by vehicle, maybe a mountain bike would.  It's almost as tall and a whole lot larger.  


 

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