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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11200 on: October 28, 2024, 11:57:39 AM »
Vogtle is in the country where land is cheap, but it's fairly close to Augusta, a decent sized city.  It's not as if the land around Vogtle is completely desolate and unused and unpopulated.  It makes sense to site such a plant near a water source and where land is cheap.

I'm in favor of wind and solar where it makes sense, but I don't think a grid can be just wind and solar obviously. 
Wind and solar alone will never make sense.  It cannot be done, and be done reliably.  No matter what, you will have days where you have very little wind, and then somedays where you have very little sun.  And then there will be days where you have neither wind nor sun, which even if it only happens 3-4 days per year, that's too much.  It has to be 100% available 100% of the time.  Really, it needs to be like 130% available, to account for failures, outages, and unplanned capacity needs.  

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11201 on: October 28, 2024, 11:58:44 AM »
 
Going the right direction, for sure. But per the post above where you highlighted the current fuel mix, it looks like storage capacity is currently only about 5.5% of the total energy capacity.

That's definitely true. The problem however is that you have to have the energy capacity to almost completely replace what you get from solar/wind if you're not getting reliable sun and/or wind. That's where storage can really help, because you can balance out that load.
Yep, and 5 years ago the capacity would be 0%.  So we're creeping up energy storage, where it makes sense.  

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« Reply #11202 on: October 28, 2024, 12:53:16 PM »
You'd need 49 farms 1 x 1 mile to be equial.  My point is it takes a lot of room for solar.  One might see what seems to be a massive solar farm that in fact is pretty insignificant.

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« Reply #11203 on: October 28, 2024, 02:39:03 PM »
You'd need 49 farms 1 x 1 mile to be equial.  My point is it takes a lot of room for solar.  One might see what seems to be a massive solar farm that in fact is pretty insignificant.

The newest two power reactors that just opened recently are 34 miles south of Augusta and  18 miles from the small town of Waynesboro.  The land around the plant is farm land mostly, not unoccupied.  It did take forever and a lot of money to get the plants built.
We have about 10 solar farms right here in my county already, and a few more are planned.  Some are the same farm, with different expansions.  There a bunch being built in Wharton county as well.  

I didn't literally mean that the Nuke plant is in the middle of nowhere, obviously there are settlements in and around where it is.  
But you said it, it's in the middle of large swaths of farmland.  I'm contrasting it with say the plants in Cali that are right by populated cities and the ones on the East Coast right next to cities etc.  

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« Reply #11204 on: October 28, 2024, 03:05:50 PM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11205 on: October 29, 2024, 07:00:04 AM »
There has never been an October, or any MONTH, without rain in Atlanta since recordkeeping began in 1878. Those few showers we saw over the weekend didn’t fall at the airport, so the record stands. No rain is in the forecast through Thursday 10/31, and no rain is in the forecast over the next 7 days.

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« Reply #11206 on: October 29, 2024, 07:31:00 AM »
didn't atlanta get rain from the hurricane

was that over a month ago already?
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« Reply #11207 on: October 29, 2024, 07:38:39 AM »
didn't atlanta get rain from the hurricane

was that over a month ago already?
Milton passed over Florida and moved into the Atlantic. October 10.

Helene hit Florida and proceeded North to cause a lot of damage with heavy rains. September 28.
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« Reply #11208 on: October 29, 2024, 07:41:07 AM »
sept 28th

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11209 on: October 29, 2024, 07:47:28 AM »
Helene caused some rain here, but it wasn't dramatic, some flooding in a few areas and some trees down.  It went east of us.  October is often a dry month here but not this dry, I don't see visible evidence of drought stress, but the trees are starting to drop leaves anyway.  It's still pretty green.

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« Reply #11210 on: October 29, 2024, 07:47:40 AM »
It was actually the 26th. Ian was on the 28th in 2022. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11211 on: October 29, 2024, 09:29:32 AM »
Heavy machinery is used to dismantle a dam on the South Anna River in Ashland, VA, on Oct. 1. Removing the dam gives several species of fish access to more than 400 miles of historic spawning grounds.
The environmental studies professor can’t help but whoop when he rounds the corner to see heavy machinery demolishing a dam that has blocked fish passage for more than a century. 
“I love that,” Charles “Chas” Gowan hollers over a barrage of hydraulic hammering.
Gowan works at Randolph-Macon College a few miles from this stretch of the South Anna River in Ashland, VA. He’s been waiting a long time for this dam that once ran a mill to be removed. So has Alan Weaver, fish passage coordinator for the Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, who’s monitored fish species here for more than 30 years.
To hear them tell it, species like hickory shad, American shad and striped bass have been knocking at the door of this dam for years, waiting for its removal to open up more than 400 miles of historic spawning grounds. Weaver has seen similar species venture to the upper reaches of the Rappahannock River since the even larger Embrey Dam was removed in 2004, and he’s confident they’ll see similar results here.



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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #11212 on: October 29, 2024, 09:49:16 AM »
God save the shad
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