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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4284 on: February 18, 2021, 04:36:56 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 18, 2021, 04:10:23 PM
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4285 on: February 18, 2021, 04:50:23 PM »
Mini ice age? Why the Sun is set to lose 7% of its power - Big Think

Interesting, some claim climate change is a far greater influence than this.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4286 on: February 18, 2021, 05:51:00 PM »
So sell my solar energy stocks?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4287 on: February 18, 2021, 05:59:56 PM »

Eventually all of the stars will burn out, and everything will be dark and frozen. 

So enjoy this heat while it lasts. 
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4288 on: February 18, 2021, 08:25:05 PM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4289 on: February 19, 2021, 07:00:37 AM »
I'm reading most of Texas' wind farms froze up about a week ago and when natural gas and coal generation could not make up the 23% from wind farms and the increased demand due to the cold the rolling blackouts began.  Is this an accurate assessment?  Also read Texas skimped on winterizing it's wind turbines which lead to the problem?  Painful lesson if true.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4290 on: February 19, 2021, 07:06:09 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on February 19, 2021, 07:00:37 AM
I'm reading most of Texas' wind farms froze up about a week ago and when natural gas and coal generation could not make up the 23% from wind farms and the increased demand due to the cold the rolling blackouts began.  Is this an accurate assessment?  Also read Texas skimped on winterizing it's wind turbines which lead to the problem?  Painful lesson if true.
I don't think so.  It sounds to me like a lack of winterizing affected nearly every part of their power generating structure.  Wind and solar were affected but were a minor part of the problem.  Nuclear and natural gas plants were more affected.  Also, Texas has their own power grid, so that big drop in power threw everything out of whack.
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« Reply #4291 on: February 19, 2021, 08:43:57 AM »
yes, not regulated by the Feds, but also not connected to other neighboring grids, so couldn't borrow power when needed.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4292 on: February 19, 2021, 08:55:17 AM »
You think all of those rich clean energy advocates are w/o a gas generator back up?We had another 2.6" yesterday,snow plows didn't bother- on top of the 11"-12" we received a few days back,on top of what hasn't melted for a month.Cold but cheerful.Brother and his buddies wussing out in the Western Basin,trying to talk my nephew and his auger to come out and play but have to convince his wife 1st
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4293 on: February 19, 2021, 09:02:20 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on February 19, 2021, 08:55:17 AM
You think all of those rich clean energy advocates are w/o a gas generator back up?We had another 2.6" yesterday,snow plows didn't bother- on top of the 11"-12" we received a few days back,on top of what hasn't melted for a month.Cold but cheerful.Brother and his buddies wussing out in the Western Basin,trying to talk my nephew and his auger to come out and play but have to convince his wife 1st


Dang. Is that just "lake effect" or is the entire state up to their eyeballs in snow? 

I know some schools actually tried to sell it. 



https://twitter.com/miamiuniversity/status/1361666904725868548?s=20
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4294 on: February 19, 2021, 09:07:08 AM »
Once the Lake is even remotely frozen N.Ohio gets caned by Old Man Winter.Last I heard it's over 80%.Perhaps even a little less snow but freakin' c-c-c-cold
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4295 on: February 19, 2021, 09:10:31 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 18, 2021, 05:59:56 PM
Eventually all of the stars will burn out, and everything will be dark and frozen.

So enjoy this heat while it lasts.
Stop trying to cheer us up
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4296 on: February 19, 2021, 09:18:55 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on February 19, 2021, 09:07:08 AM
Once the Lake is even remotely frozen N.Ohio gets caned by Old Man Winter.Last I heard it's over 80%.Perhaps even a little less snow but freakin' c-c-c-cold
polar vortex moving out of Iowa
headed your way

going out to start the car this morning with the mercury hovering around zero, felt not too awful

hell, 28 degrees warmer than a couple mornings ago 
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4297 on: February 19, 2021, 09:32:37 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on February 19, 2021, 07:00:37 AM
I'm reading most of Texas' wind farms froze up about a week ago and when natural gas and coal generation could not make up the 23% from wind farms and the increased demand due to the cold the rolling blackouts began.  Is this an accurate assessment?  Also read Texas skimped on winterizing it's wind turbines which lead to the problem?  Painful lesson if true.
They skimped on winterizing all the power sources because it costs money to manage a 30 year event.  One of four nuclear power reactors went off line, it's not clear why.  NG sources had issues with instruments and valves freezing.  There aren't many coal plants left, they could have helped.  And as noted, they are an isolated grid, a large grid, but isolated.

Wind power this time of year probably only provides 15% or so to the grid normally.
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