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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3766 on: November 21, 2020, 09:05:08 AM »
some think abandoned windmills are a problem to dismantle and dispose of

what's the cost of removing a dam?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3767 on: November 21, 2020, 09:07:49 AM »
Depends on the dam. What's it made of? To remove one, you have to build diversions. You can't have a failure during demo or you would cause a catastrophe. I've done a number of dam failure analyses during my career. I don't think there is a worse flood possible, except maybe a massive storm surge like we had with Katrina. 

But, that was man-made too, of course.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3768 on: November 21, 2020, 09:21:01 AM »
If it has a spillway, the water level could be lowered hopefully substantially over time and left open.  But the bottom of the spillway could be fairly high relative to dam height.

It's a dam problem.

I imagine removal is costly and no one has the funds.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3769 on: November 21, 2020, 11:38:05 AM »
They all have spillways, but this one just overtops. A diversion would be necessary.

And then there is a lot of sediment behind the dam too, so finding a place to put that could be problematic. No doubt there is contamination.

There is nothing good about dams.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3770 on: November 21, 2020, 12:40:06 PM »
Some dams do confer some advantages.  Whether they outweigh the negatives is another story.


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3771 on: December 01, 2020, 08:10:35 AM »
Received Old Man Winter's 1st bitch slap of the season,appears about 4"-5"s and down to 25 deg.Looks pretty damn neat in/on the woods/creek.Going out shortly of course wear a mask/scarf and not for Covid reasons.Hope it's like this the 24th-the 1st 😎
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3772 on: December 01, 2020, 08:14:45 AM »
It will be dropping to 36 tonight in SW FL. It's 55 now. High of 64. Unseasonably very cold. Normal is 78 and 57.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3773 on: December 01, 2020, 08:22:00 AM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3774 on: December 01, 2020, 08:47:26 AM »
We had snow showers in the forecast, but I didn't see any, no stick of course.  This is our first night below freezing, 27°F.  It's up to 30°F now.

No wind, no clouds, sunny day, not bad at all really.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3775 on: December 01, 2020, 09:02:04 AM »
Absolutely beautiful snowfall overnight.  Looks awesome out.  Great day for a fire and some cocoa.  Though snow days ain't what they used to be for the kids.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3776 on: December 01, 2020, 09:09:33 AM »
Well because of Covid they're home too much.Agree Sam - the snow looks grand

PS - Hmm maybe Ice Fishing this Year
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3777 on: December 01, 2020, 09:22:47 AM »
My buddy in Cincy is sending me photos of the snow there.

I'd be fine with one or two a year, which is about what we get here, and it doesn't last of course.  Old snow is irksome.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3778 on: December 01, 2020, 09:33:03 AM »

https://youtu.be/2yM5m5-1-I0


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After removal of the dams of the Elwha River, the fish are back with a vengeance.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3779 on: December 01, 2020, 10:16:02 AM »
I love stealing logs and sticks from Beaver lodges for shorelunch fuel.   Just doing my part to bring an end to dams.

 

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