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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1820 on: August 30, 2019, 10:55:37 PM »
it was still very strong in the 80s when I was skiing there
Brewskiing counts?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1821 on: August 31, 2019, 08:53:48 AM »
i don't hate anyone.

Oh wait, except Sooners.  Sorry C-Dub.  I recognize it flows both ways. ;)


You make a good point about Coloradans hating California more than Texico these days.  We get a lot of California transplants here, too, and people seem to "hate" them in general, but in reality, face to face, everyone I've met from California has been plenty warm and friendly.  Also, they tend to accept and embrace the local culture, I can't tell you how many transplants have told me how they fall in love with Centex BBQ. Many of them also seem to feel the need to purchase cowboy boots and pickup trucks.  Can't say I blame them though, cowboy boots and pickup trucks are awesome.

The only place I've ever encountered "bad" Californians is in LA, but that's more a factor of it being a large and impersonal city.  I've felt the same way about people in NYC, Paris, etc.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1822 on: December 10, 2019, 01:26:31 PM »
Mid 50's before midnight,30 right now going down to high teens overnite.Might get some ice fishing in this winter after all
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1823 on: December 10, 2019, 01:32:51 PM »

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1824 on: December 10, 2019, 02:03:44 PM »
There's actually been a lot of good news on the clean energy front this past fall, at the state and local levels, of course.

The way the 2020 Democratic primary and election goes will obviously be a big deal, though, because regardless of what the states do, what happens at the federal level is more important to influence what other countries will do, particularly China and India. Most of the Democratic candidates appear to have at least decent energy policies, though.

As is already happening on some places, the focus should be on getting rid of coal plants, stop building gas plants, and primarily deploy renewables, while electrifying transportation and other sectors to a significant extent.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1826 on: December 10, 2019, 02:29:14 PM »
Gotta try though for future folks
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1827 on: December 10, 2019, 02:39:35 PM »
 to influence what other countries will do, particularly China and India. 
good luck
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1828 on: December 10, 2019, 02:46:18 PM »
I'd like to see at least a tough outline of a plan that included:

1.  How much it would cost over X time period.
2.  What it would generate or replace.
3.  What new to the world inventions might be needed.
4.  How much impact the plan would have on reducing climate change.

Most of what I see out there are promises to do something later.  I have yet to see any practicable approaches that make more than a slight difference we couldn't even measure.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1829 on: December 10, 2019, 06:03:15 PM »
I roughed in a electric car charger in the garage of my new house, its gonna happen.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1830 on: December 10, 2019, 09:16:28 PM »
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/614728/why-the-electric-car-revolution-may-take-a-lot-longer-than-expected/?utm_medium=tr_social&utm_campaign=site_visitor.unpaid.engagement&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2WC5uw7wmlrr2Zoh58BFT8hYXdbQIkh6G6CkCdIyAUmlc3JbeccHj3pnk#Echobox=1575653530

There may be good news, but it simply isn't happening fast enough, not even close.
Europe and China are going to drive it. Forget America.


China is the largest autos market in the world. Much bigger than the US. And that gap is only going to continue to widen as China overtakes the US as the largest economy in the world. We're basically already at 2020. Chinese have basically put a ban on the gas car past 2030. After 2030, no more gas cars will be sold in the largest auto market in the entire world. Huge chunk of GM's and Ford's business is in China. Don't think it's a coicidence that GM announced 20 new electric models for China literally the day after China said they were banning gas cars after 2030. Chinese owned Volvo already quit making gas cars starting this year. They only make hybrids and all-electrics now.


China killed the gas car. They will be a thing of the past in just 20 years. That's a blink of an eye.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1831 on: December 10, 2019, 09:51:47 PM »
Doubt it,USA/Canada will keep making them - electric cars in these winters.How about Plow trucks?It will eventually happen but gas vehicles won't be off the roads in 20 years.I'd take that bet hinging of course on whether I'd be around to collect - or you to pay me
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1832 on: December 10, 2019, 10:12:25 PM »
Doubt it,USA?canada will keep making them - electric cars in these winters.How about Plow trucks?It will eventually happen but gas vehicles won't be off the roads in 20 years.I'd take that bet hinging of course on whether I'd be around to collect - or you to pay me
Canada is a little pipsqueak insignificant nothing country. US autos will have no choice but to follow suite with Europe and China. They sell more cars in those markets than they do in the US. Doesn't make sense for them to keep making gas cars in one market and no gas cars in the other larger markets.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1833 on: December 10, 2019, 10:45:09 PM »
But US law makers can make them or force them to if the need persists.We still get tons of snow,which electric cars and plows are a ways out in dealing with
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