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Mdot21 · « **Reply #798 on:** August 08, 2023, 06:16:19 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 08, 2023, 03:21:18 PM

A little more on Stanford, which I forgot to get into earlier.

Stanford did NOT want to be a part of the BTAA (formerly CIC). Stanford would be IN if not for that. And I think it's a major F up on their part. Yeah, GREAT school. But it's not like the B1G is a big bag of slouches.

Maybe they should just go IVY or UChicago and be done with it.

I don't know about Cal, but UCLA is joining so I don't see why Cal wouldn't.

they should just go ivy. better fit across the board for that school. plus they would probably dominate at that level. this level they pretty much sucked ass forever except for a great run sparked by Jeem and kept going for awhile there by Shaw.

FearlessF · « **Reply #799 on:** August 08, 2023, 09:45:42 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on August 08, 2023, 02:31:45 PM

Kudos to Wisconsin for apparently being the only B1G institution to see the stupidity of this move and voting not to allow it.

maybe Wisconsin didn't get a blowjob?

LittlePig · « **Reply #800 on:** August 08, 2023, 09:54:23 PM »

I am surprised Wisconsin did not try to block Washington because there is only room for one UW in this league.

What are all the abbreviaters going to do now? What in the world is Medina going to do when he posts his power rankings? This is going to lead to mass confusion! How can we possibly function with 2 UW's in the conference?

847badgerfan · « **Reply #801 on:** August 09, 2023, 08:16:13 AM »

Quote from: LittlePig on August 08, 2023, 09:54:23 PM

I am surprised Wisconsin did not try to block Washington because there is only room for one UW in this league.

What are all the abbreviaters going to do now? What in the world is Medina going to do when he posts his power rankings? This is going to lead to mass confusion! How can we possibly function with 2 UW's in the conference?

Washington likes to go by UDub.

FearlessF · « **Reply #802 on:** August 09, 2023, 09:31:28 AM »

doggies

utee94 · « **Reply #803 on:** August 09, 2023, 10:11:30 AM »

utee94 · « **Reply #804 on:** August 09, 2023, 11:20:34 AM »

Ah. NOW I understand the method to the B1G's madness in adding UO and UW.

LittlePig · « **Reply #805 on:** August 09, 2023, 04:30:38 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 08, 2023, 03:21:18 PM

A little more on Stanford, which I forgot to get into earlier.

Stanford did NOT want to be a part of the BTAA (formerly CIC). Stanford would be IN if not for that. And I think it's a major F up on their part. Yeah, GREAT school. But it's not like the B1G is a big bag of slouches.

Maybe they should just go IVY or UChicago and be done with it.

I don't know about Cal, but UCLA is joining so I don't see why Cal wouldn't.

I'm not calling you a liar, I am sure that's what you were told, but I simply refuse to believe that was the only reason Stanford was not picked over Oregon.

I hear Stanford is way behind in the new reality of NIL and the transfer portal. That probably didn't help. And sounds like TV wanted Oregon more than Stanford. But I have a hunch the real reasons have not leaked yet why Stanford was passed over.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #806 on:** August 09, 2023, 08:52:50 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on August 08, 2023, 09:45:42 PM

maybe Wisconsin didn't get a blowjob?

Ya like the Nebraska vote

MarqHusker · « **Reply #807 on:** August 09, 2023, 09:38:34 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 08, 2023, 10:12:12 AM

One B1G school voted NO on Oregon and Washington.

WISCONSIN.

They were fine with Washington, but they wanted Stanford over Oregon. Like way more.

The other 13 schools F'd this up royally.

Not picking a fight with you or this, but this is like passing on dessert in the grand scheme of the (more than 13) schools that F'd this up royally.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #808 on:** August 09, 2023, 09:49:39 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 08, 2023, 03:21:18 PM

A little more on Stanford, which I forgot to get into earlier.

Stanford did NOT want to be a part of the BTAA (formerly CIC). Stanford would be IN if not for that. And I think it's a major F up on their part. Yeah, GREAT school. But it's not like the B1G is a big bag of slouches.

Maybe they should just go IVY or UChicago and be done with it.

I don't know about Cal, but UCLA is joining so I don't see why Cal wouldn't.

Two things:

1. The most central Stanford trait, in my deeply biased opinion is the desire to feel better than others. To a Stanford-ian, the Big Ten is a big bag of slouches. Their opinion of our schools likely isn't far from Medina's opinion of Oregon.
2. Cal would join in a heartbeat. For one reason, Cal needs money, and going from being the Wake Forest of the Pac-12 to the Wake of the Big 10 would be pretty sweet. For another, if Cal football isn't part of a group that gives it a reason to exist, it'll face some real existential questions. Setting aside the current debt, what is the right level of football that leads to the level of school support that a place that doesn't really care is fine with? Is P5 life too pricy? FCS?

Cincydawg · « **Reply #809 on:** August 10, 2023, 05:04:40 AM »

I wonder what percentage of Stanfordians care which conference they are in.

TyphonInc · « **Reply #810 on:** August 10, 2023, 09:05:09 AM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 08, 2023, 03:21:18 PM

A little more on Stanford, which I forgot to get into earlier.

Stanford did NOT want to be a part of the BTAA (formerly CIC). Stanford would be IN if not for that. And I think it's a major F up on their part. Yeah, GREAT school. But it's not like the B1G is a big bag of slouches.

Maybe they should just go IVY or UChicago and be done with it.

I don't know about Cal, but UCLA is joining so I don't see why Cal wouldn't.

That's the piece of data that makes all this make sense.
Athletics = 100's of million
Graduate Research = Billions

If Stanford said they wouldn't share the pot of billions just to play with a pot of millions, then yes they get left out.

I've always said follow the money, and posters here saying one is naive for thinking academics plays any part is super frustrating. That's not what I, Medina, or others have said. We are also saying follow the money and there is a bigger pot of money out there than football. (Graduate Research)

We can bag on Nebraska all we want because they got kicked out of AAU, but I believe Nebraska medical school is still part of the BTAA, and I know that OSU Hospital shares research with Nebraska Medical, so from a graduate Billion dollar perspective Nebraska is still a win.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #811 on:** August 10, 2023, 10:04:52 AM »

Quote from: bayareabadger on August 09, 2023, 09:49:39 PM

Two things:
1. The most central Stanford trait, in my deeply biased opinion is the desire to feel better than others. To a Stanford-ian, the Big Ten is a big bag of slouches. Their opinion of our schools likely isn't far from Medina's opinion of Oregon.

Ok, so Stanford people are snobs relative to us B1G folks.

Fine, Michigan people are snobs relative to a lot of other schools.

I was once in the Horseshoe watching the Buckeyes beat the snot out of the Badgers when a visiting fan loudly referred to the host academic institution as a "Community College". So Wisconsin people can be snobs too.

You might say I'm a snob relative to Oregon.

That is all well and good, but I don't see myself as a snob, I see myself as a calculating realist. Here, once again, is the full list of research spending by institutions:

3, 1.6B Michigan
5, 1.5B, Washington
6, 1.5B, UCLA
8, 1.4B, Wisconsin
9. 1.3B, Stanford
12, 1.2B, Ohio State
17, 1.1B, Maryland
22, 1.1B, Minnesota
26, 971M, Penn State
28, 956M, USC
30, 913M, Northwestern
37, 731M, Illinois
39, 710M, Michigan State
40, 695M, Indiana
41, 679M, Purdue
45, 644M, Rutgers
50, 554M, Iowa
87, 307M, Nebraska (their Medical center is another $201M, reported separately)
149, 139M, Oregon

Which snobs are right and which ones are just talk?

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