Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

Not that I don't trust you, but I'd be interested to read more, do you have a link for this?

Good job Wisconsin, can we make King Barry our Commissioner and allow him retroactive power to change this recent decision?

I still have some connections, and I was also out in LA this past weekend for a wedding. Two prominent USC boosters were there, a VERY wealthy Stanford booster, and a prominent Penn State booster. None of them wanted Oregon, and confirmed what I heard about the UW vote. 

USC despises Oregon much the same way OSU, UM, PSU, etc. will come to despise them.

The wedding was at the Bel Air Club. Lots of money and clout in that room.

I honestly am not getting the extreme hatred for Oregon.  Academically they are no Stanford but they are AAU members and have USNews ranking of #105, which is similar to Col, Ariz, ASU, Utah and  better than Nebraska.  

Ok, So academically it probably made more sense for the Big Ten to add the snobs at Stanford and Berkley and have Oregon go to the Big 12.  But the comments that Oregon is not much better than a junior college are just ridiculous. 

I honestly am not getting the extreme hatred for Oregon.  Academically they are no Stanford but they are AAU members and have USNews ranking of #105, which is similar to Col, Ariz, ASU, Utah and  better than Nebraska. 

Ok, So academically it probably made more sense for the Big Ten to add the snobs at Stanford and Berkley and have Oregon go to the Big 12.  But the comments that Oregon is not much better than a junior college are just ridiculous.

I was the one who called them a Community College so I'll answer for it.

First, as @Cincydawg said it was hyperbole, but not by much.

Second, your statement that they are #105 in USNR is completely irrelevant to me. As I stated upthread, the academics that we *SHOULD* care about are research because that is where the money is.

I listed it earlier and don't care to look it up again right now, but Oregon's research spending is dead last in the expanded B1G and by such a large margin that they are literally closer to a Community College than they are to any other B1G school. That is why calling them a CC was hyperbole, but not by much.

Finally, their viewership numbers are ok but not great and this is a time when their athletics are better than they have ever been due to Phil Knight's money. If they return to their normal after he dies as they likely will, they will be:

• By far the weakest academic member of the B1G, and
• One of the weakest and least watched athletics programs in the B1G.
• Located in one of the least populous states of any B1G school.

It was a colossal unforced error to add them.

Kudos to Wisconsin for apparently being the only B1G institution to see the stupidity of this move and voting not to allow it.

A little more on Stanford, which I forgot to get into earlier.

Stanford did NOT want to be a part of the BTAA (formerly CIC). Stanford would be IN if not for that. And I think it's a major F up on their part. Yeah, GREAT school. But it's not like the B1G is a big bag of slouches. 

Maybe they should just go IVY or UChicago and be done with it.

I don't know about Cal, but UCLA is joining so I don't see why Cal wouldn't.

Yeah, I'm not sure Cal was offered? 

Why on earth would you want Cal????

The only reason would be to keep the XII or ACC out of California. That's it.

I think the PAC-4 should merge with the MWC and be done with it. But Stanford and Boise (a real community college) in the same conference?

Nope.