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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #224 on: March 31, 2020, 10:04:33 PM »
I assume most of these types of things are just given to a guy and he's instructed to either play it safe or be outrageous on purpose.  Nothing actually genuine or in-between those extremes.
I'd say they play it safe and then throw in something outrageous to stir things up
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #225 on: April 01, 2020, 07:29:40 AM »
Yeah, I don't know when this "way too early" poll thing started, but I'm sure that gets clicks even today, despite being a completely meaningless opinion meant to get clicks.  I think 20 years ago, "we" just awaited the initial AP/UPI poll with some anticipation because it meant the season was nearing, and it had some relevance at that point in time.

Today, a team can be unranked completely and make the playoffs.  So, who cares about early polls?  

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #226 on: April 01, 2020, 12:48:04 PM »
1) Barry Sanders

2-100 - mere mortal RB's in comparison. Does it really matter?

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #227 on: April 01, 2020, 12:49:48 PM »
1) Barry Sanders

2-100 - mere mortal RB's in comparison. Does it really matter?
Not in college, he isn't.
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #228 on: April 01, 2020, 12:51:43 PM »
Maybe "we" could rank order RBs from our school only.  That would be tough for me, but at least there would be less tendency for bias.

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #229 on: April 01, 2020, 01:20:43 PM »
Not in college, he isn't.
Disagree. He didn't need to start for more than 1 year. What he did in one year will never be done again.

No one ever includes his stats from the bowl game. The way the stats are done now, the CCG's and bowl games are all included. Weren't back then. And now guys are playing 13, 14, 15 games a season.

Include the bowl game, and Barry had 2,850 rushing yards and 42 rushing touchdowns. In 12 games.

He didn't need to start another season. He was just so much obviously better than anyone else, that it doesn't matter.

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #230 on: April 01, 2020, 02:10:26 PM »
Who are your top 10 for Michigan?
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #231 on: April 01, 2020, 03:01:22 PM »
I assume most of these types of things are just given to a guy and he's instructed to either play it safe or be outrageous on purpose.  Nothing actually genuine or in-between those extremes.
I think this one involved some polling. 


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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #232 on: April 01, 2020, 03:04:19 PM »
Who are your top 10 for Michigan?
1. Tyrone Wheatley
2-10. Everyone else

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #233 on: April 01, 2020, 03:15:00 PM »
That I've seen:

1. Jonathon Tayler
2. Melvin Gordon
3. Ron Dayne
4. Montee Ball
5. Brent Moss
6. Brian Calhoun
7. Terrell Fletcher
8. John Clay
9. Anthony Davis
10. James White
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #234 on: April 01, 2020, 03:42:07 PM »
A lot of very good programs don't seem to have that many premier level RBs.  They have some good ones of course, like say Florida and LSU or Tennessee even Alabama, that can be argued.  USC once was a haven for great RBs.

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #235 on: April 01, 2020, 04:18:08 PM »
Not in college, he isn't.
my #1 vote goes to Barry

#2 might go to Billy Sims - he didn't have 4 years of volume either
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #236 on: April 01, 2020, 05:16:05 PM »
This thread was a purely statistical look at RB careers.  But to some, 1 year is enough, eye test is enough, etc.  Those aren't what I set out to do.  Not that my list is better than anyone else's, nor does any of this matter, but if you wanted a single-season list, that would make sense.  But that's a separate list.  If you value dynamic eye-test speed/power/40 time/juke moves, that's great.  But it's a separate list.
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I like the idea of ranking each school's #1 RB of all-time, and to do that, the precursor would be to rank each program's RBs.  That would be fun.
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But back to my list - an all-time CAREER best RBs list is going to weigh volume very heavily, and it should.  Barry Sanders himself would tell you he didn't have the best CAREER in college.  But when you just say "best" - it's simply too vague. 
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Take the 3 categories I mentioned initially:
Single season - sure, it's Barry Sanders, '88
Speed/power/40 time/juke moves - maybe Sanders again.  Maybe Herschel.  Maybe Peterson.  Maybe Bo.
Stats-only, career - maybe Jonathan Taylor, maybe Ricky Williams, maybe Ron Dayne.
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The endless bickering occurs when we mix those 3 categories up and each pick one.  Specifics help. 
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #237 on: April 01, 2020, 05:31:10 PM »
1. Tyrone Wheatley
2-10. Everyone else
Biakabatuka is up there. I think he maybe was the best pure RB. He’s probably #2 for me, still have to put Wheatley #1. Wheatley was just a freakish athlete though. Unlike any RB that has ever played at Michigan.

And honestly he gets forgotten way too often in the annals of CFB history. He is right up there with Bo Jackson or any athletic freak that’s ever played RB in CFB. This dude was a 6’1 and 235 pound jacked ball of muscle that set the state record in HS for the 100m dash. He was a bonafide track star whose speed translated to the football field and he was just so big and strong and no one that size should be able to run that fast.

Have to put A-Train at #3. Chris Perry at #4 and Mike Hart at #5. After that I don’t think it matters anymore.

 

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