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Topic: The 80% Club

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OrangeAfroMan

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The 80% Club
« on: July 23, 2018, 01:55:04 AM »
Winning 80% of your games is sort of a magical number.  Not for one season, of course, but for a decade.  It's hard to do.  Since WWII:
1950s - Oklahoma
1960s - Alabama, Texas
1970s - Oklahoma, Alabama, Michigan, Nebraska, Penn St, Ohio St, ND, USC
1980s - Nebraska, Miami
1990s - FSU, Nebraska, Florida, Tennessee
2000s - Boise St, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio St
2010s - Alabama, Ohio St, Boise St, Oklahoma, Clemson

Why did the 70s have so many elite programs over a 10-year period?  What changed in the 80s?  
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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2018, 02:00:37 AM »
And since a by-decade cutoff is arbitrary, here's a different 10-year cutoff list (from ___5 of one decade to ___4 of the next - ie 2005-2014):
1955-64...Bowling Green, Ole Miss, Arizona St
1965-1974...ND, San Diego St, Penn St, Nebraska, Alabama
1975-1984...Nebraska, BYU
1985-1994...Miami, FSU, Nebraska
1995-2004...FSU, Tennessee
2005-2014...Boise St, Ohio St, Oregon

Cool, got some different programs here....
« Last Edit: July 23, 2018, 02:11:26 AM by OrangeAfroMan »
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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2018, 02:09:34 AM »
And to search for other programs......
1953-62...Ole Miss, Oklahoma
1963-72...Nebraska, Texas, Dartmouth
1973-82...Alabama, Oklahoma, Penn St, USC, Ohio St, Michigan
1983-92...Miami, Nebraska
1993-02...Nebraska, FSU, Marshall, Florida
2003-12...Boise St, LSU


and another slice:
1958-67...Alabama, Bowling Green
1968-77...Penn St, Michigan, Ohio St, San Diego St, Oklahoma, ND, Nebraska, Texas, Alabama
1978-87...Nebraska, Oklahoma, BYU
1988-97...FSU, Nebraska, Miami
1998-07...Boise St, Texas
2008-17...Alabama, Boise St, Ohio St
« Last Edit: July 23, 2018, 02:12:24 AM by OrangeAfroMan »
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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2018, 05:17:24 AM »
And to search for other programs......
1953-62...Ole Miss, Oklahoma
1963-72...Nebraska, Texas, Dartmouth
1973-82...Alabama, Oklahoma, Penn St, USC, Ohio St, Michigan
1983-92...Miami, Nebraska
1993-02...Nebraska, FSU, Marshall, Florida
2003-12...Boise St, LSU


and another slice:
1958-67...Alabama, Bowling Green
1968-77...Penn St, Michigan, Ohio St, San Diego St, Oklahoma, ND, Nebraska, Texas, Alabama
1978-87...Nebraska, Oklahoma, BYU
1988-97...FSU, Nebraska, Miami
1998-07...Boise St, Texas
2008-17...Alabama, Boise St, Ohio St
Nebraska on the list from ‘68-‘97.  Yeesh. Impressive.

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2018, 05:25:02 AM »
The best 10 year stretch in WVU history was 2002-2011 when they went 95-33 (.742).  It goes to show how hard it is to win at an 80% clip over a 10 year period.  The fact that Nebraska did it over 30 years is nuts.

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2018, 07:00:45 AM »

Why did the 70s have so many elite programs over a 10-year period?  What changed in the 80s?  
It was after the implementation of the two-platoon system, but before the scholarship limitations. 
Non-Helmets didn't stand a chance. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2018, 08:50:54 AM »
The best 10 year stretch in WVU history was 2002-2011 when they went 95-33 (.742).  It goes to show how hard it is to win at an 80% clip over a 10 year period.  The fact that Nebraska did it over 30 years is nuts.
Good call, best 10 year stretch for your program.
From 1904-1913, MSU (MSC) went 67-11-5 (.859).  But let's discount that one for a minute, it being 1904 and all.
Using 1936 as an arbitrary start date, being the first year of the AP Poll, from 1948-57, MSU was 74-17-2 (.813).  There is a random 3-6 year in the middle there messing the whole thing up too.
MSU went 9-0 in both 1951 and 1952, winning a national championship one year, and finishing #2 the other.  They then went 9-1, finished #3 in the nation in 1953, winning the Big Ten and going to the Rose Bowl in their first year in the conference.  They fell off to 3-6 in Duffy's first year in 1954, before bouncing right back to 9-1 in 1955, going to their second Rose Bowl in 3 years, and finishing #2 in the polls.
So there was precedent for what happened in 2016, except even more drastic, as from 1950-1957 MSU was possibly the best program in the nation, with a random 8th place Big Ten finish in one year in there.
The current run of 93-39 over the past 10 years (.705) might be the best since then, and really not even close to .800

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2018, 08:57:40 AM »
Using 1936 as an arbitrary start year would be unfair to the Wolverines. It wipes out most of their good decades. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2018, 11:32:03 AM »
Nebraska on the list from ‘68-‘97.  Yeesh. Impressive.
And from '70-'99...so assuming they were over .800 for probably three consecutive 30-year stretches at least.  THAT's even more astonishing.
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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2018, 11:35:29 AM »
Nebraska on the list from ‘68-‘97.  Yeesh. Impressive.
stretch goes to 2001....  =)

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2018, 11:39:28 AM »
for those of us growing up in the 80's and 90's in Nebraska...  it was a given.  UNL would win.   I don't think people really appreciated (even locally) how good TO was as an offensive coordinator and CEO of a program.   There was really zero reason why UNL's history should not have been KSU, Iowa or ISU.  I know fans would say that discounts what the bobfather did/created... but TO was his OC.  He played a large role in the recovery of UNL's program (UNL was good prior to WWII)

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2018, 11:39:41 AM »
Damn you, 2008 and 2012, for keeping UW out of the current club!!
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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2018, 12:07:26 PM »
I really like this club

hope to get back there

hopefully, Frost is an outstanding O-coordinator and head coach and coaches until he's 80
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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2018, 12:37:58 PM »
Yeah, I'd love to see Texas rejoin that club sometime in my remaining lifetime, too.  

 

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