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watched some of the ND game. I know Navy is a service academy and they probably suck, but ND looked impressive. Sam Hartman looked good. ND might be a problem this year bc I think they have a real life QB for the first time in a LOOOOOONG time.

I have them for maybe one of tOSU 2-3 L's this season

Michigan v USC for all the marbles. 

👀 not seeing that unfortunately Jeem's boys may represent

Alex Grinch and that entire staff should've been fired.

Sadly he should, maybe he caught lightning in a bottle with Mike Leach(RIP) when in the Palouse. Those defenses improved in his 3 seasons there,he was meh in C-BUS splitting duties. Now been at OU/USC for 4 full seasons and he hasn't displayed any improvement with the benefit of being blue bloods. Maybe the focus is on offense but still ya prolly his last season unless the Trojan shows noticeable upgrades on that side of the ball.

Ya know this sounds like us discussing JEEM 3-4 yrs back only on the other side

Hartmann was that good at WF, he can be even better at ND.  He's a dude.

agreed. he's very good. last time I can remember ND having a QB that was actually good is Jimmy Clausen maybe. That was a long time ago. And the rest of the team sucked around Clausen. 

Seriously, think about it. Who have their QBs been in the 2010s to present? Tyler Buchner, Drew Pyne, Ian Book, Jack Coan, Brandon Wimbush, Malik Zaire, Everett Golson, Tommy Rees, Dane Crist....yeeesh. 

USC's defense

yeah the defense is still terrible. it was a pathetic showing vs San Jose State. USC OL was also a joke, Caleb Williams was taking way too much pressures vs a team that should've never been able to lay a glove on him and their run game was honestly just meh. You'd think vs a team like that they'd be able to just run it down their throats for 250 yards at 8 yards per clip, but not even close.

USC's offense and Special teams return teams were way too explosive for a team like San Jose State to ever have a prayer, but that USC defense was honestly atrocious vs an inferior team. I watched most of the game. I don't see how they are going to get through Oregon, Utah, ND, or Washington unscathed. They could lose all 4.

That true frosh Zachariah Branch is a freaking stud. Returned a kick 97 yards for a TD, had some big punt returns which set them up with short fields, and also caught a TD on offense. He's going to be a weapon all year for them on special teams.

USC looks same to me this year as they were last year. They have the best QB in the country, a middling to perhaps even bad OL, weapons galore at WR, good stable of RBs, should have lethal return teams on STs with Branch, and they have a babyshit soft defense that is not going to stop anybody with a pulse.

agreed. he's very good. last time I can remember ND having a QB that was actually good is Jimmy Clausen maybe. That was a long time ago. And the rest of the team sucked around Clausen.

Seriously, think about it. Who have their QBs been in the 2010s to present? Tyler Buchner, Drew Pyne, Ian Book, Jack Coan, Brandon Wimbush, Malik Zaire, Everett Golson, Tommy Rees, Dane Crist....yeeesh.

What ever happened to the guy with the hype and cool name Gunnar somebody(i think)

What ever happened to the guy with the hype and cool name Gunnar somebody(i think)

oh yeah Gunner Kiel, right? he sucked too. ND had LOTTA mid to downright even sucky QBs for last 15 years. Hartman might be the first actual guy they've had at QB in 15 years.