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Cincydawg

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #364 on: October 24, 2019, 11:14:19 AM »
My list of things I don't like:

1.  Top ten lists.

The end.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #365 on: October 24, 2019, 11:16:34 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 24, 2019, 11:14:19 AM
My list of things I don't like:

1.  Top ten lists.

The end.
There are two types of people.

Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data...
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #366 on: October 24, 2019, 11:18:50 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 23, 2019, 11:58:49 PM
Their algorithms got out of control, ethically.  Fb is in the money-making business and outrage gets the most clicks.  It's taking a truth about human beings and exploiting it, period.

t'd be like selling bottled water (nothing wrong with that), but then gradually adding tasteless ingredients that make the customer (don't call them a person!) thirstier. 

And it's not necessarily a purely unethical practice - it's a greed-first practice that simply didn't care to worry about the potential unethical snowball growing out of control.
It is an unethical practice.
Ever heard of TANSTAAFL?  There ain't no such thing as a free lunch?
Where did "free lunch" come from, and why did Robert Heinlein feel compelled to invent (or popularize) this acronym with which to describe it?
Gilded Age bars catering to working me would offer free lunches.  Mostly made up of salty sandwiches and snacks, so that the customers would feel thirsty and buy more beer.
Unethical then, unethical now.
Just like all the public-policy equivalents.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #367 on: October 24, 2019, 11:19:01 AM »
I have that on a T shirt.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #368 on: October 24, 2019, 11:22:54 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 24, 2019, 12:06:20 AM
Luckily, we can have this conversation with zero political strife.

We don't have to worry about either left or right - anyone and everyone all along the spectrum can only form a valid democratic populace if they're informed.  Hence, the purposeful - and I keep using that word for a reason - the purposeful deception of the truth online should be criminal.  No, you can't get every jackass with too much time on his hands, but these massive bot groups and purposeful misinformation outlets (who play both sides like a maestro) could easily be criminalized. 

And YES, they're as bad or worse than any of the other verbal or typed crimes that already exist.
Why limit it to online deception?
Make it cover spoken, written, and printed communication.
That way, nearly every political speech, love letter, television commentary, and newspaper editorial will involve criminal activity.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #369 on: October 24, 2019, 11:40:20 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 24, 2019, 08:11:36 AM
Speaking of teeth, so, I'm missing my penultimate upper right molar.  The cavity has healed remarkably quickly.  It's not even sore now. 

Can I avoid this implant process and just live with a missing tooth?

Gonna ask the dentist.
i have a missing tooth (insert bama fan joke here) and have for a long time. they removed one when i was in hs to give my bottom teeth room to move with braces, and we just never went back in and put the perm fake tooth in. we've talked about it sense, and i'll likely do it in the somewhat near future, but the only problem i've had was the occasional pointy piece of food (usually a chip) hitting the gum at the wrong angle and hurting for a second.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #370 on: October 24, 2019, 11:41:50 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on October 24, 2019, 11:05:54 AM
I think CD should make a Top 10 list of things he dislikes about discussing/analyzing college football!


he does this in most threads, he just leaves it to you to organize them into a single thought.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #371 on: October 24, 2019, 12:33:15 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 24, 2019, 12:06:20 AM
Luckily, we can have this conversation with zero political strife.

We don't have to worry about either left or right - anyone and everyone all along the spectrum can only form a valid democratic populace if they're informed.  Hence, the purposeful - and I keep using that word for a reason - the purposeful deception of the truth online should be criminal.  No, you can't get every jackass with too much time on his hands, but these massive bot groups and purposeful misinformation outlets (who play both sides like a maestro) could easily be criminalized. 

And YES, they're as bad or worse than any of the other verbal or typed crimes that already exist.
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 24, 2019, 07:29:06 AM
The line between expressing an opinion and "purposeful deception" seems thin to me.

And nearly every meme I see on FB that is political is deceptive, or flat wrong.  I have no clue how this could be monitored, or by whom.

It is incumbent on US to deal with it.

It's akin to perjury, it happens fairly often but is rarely prosecuted because of burden of proof.  "I didn't understand the question."
 "I didn't mean to say that."  "I was taken out of context."
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 24, 2019, 08:03:57 AM
Criminalized?

Yeah, establishing that standard in line with 1A is going to be ... near impossible. Shoot, weren’t we calling a list of top college players that was too NFL based clickbait like four months ago?
Exactly...

I agree it's a problem. Hell, I agree it's a major problem. 

The problem is that most of the proposed solutions scare me more than the problem. 
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #372 on: October 24, 2019, 12:38:09 PM »
Being Southern, I think I can get by without one tooth.  Or more.

We drink our corn anyway.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #373 on: October 24, 2019, 12:51:28 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on October 23, 2019, 03:50:57 PM
That's the greatest thing about being a Libertarian! I never have to worry about my party being corrupted by power, because we'll never have any power! :)
 We also don't have to worry about offending just one part of the spectrum. I can usually offend both side with just a couple of statements
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #374 on: October 24, 2019, 12:51:43 PM »
if you can drink cotton gin, you can certainly drink corn squeezings
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #375 on: October 24, 2019, 12:55:18 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 24, 2019, 12:06:20 AM
Luckily, we can have this conversation with zero political strife.



We don't have to worry about either left or right - anyone and everyone all along the spectrum can only form a valid democratic populace if they're informed.  Hence, the purposeful - and I keep using that word for a reason - the purposeful deception of the truth online should be criminal.  No, you can't get every jackass with too much time on his hands, but these massive bot groups and purposeful misinformation outlets (who play both sides like a maestro) could easily be criminalized. 



And YES, they're as bad or worse than any of the other verbal or typed crimes that already exist.

Knowing that people hold this opinion about "free speech" doesn't give me much hope.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #376 on: October 24, 2019, 12:58:16 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on October 24, 2019, 11:18:50 AM
It is an unethical practice.
Ever heard of TANSTAAFL?  There ain't no such thing as a free lunch?
Where did "free lunch" come from, and why did Robert Heinlein feel compelled to invent (or popularize) this acronym with which to describe it?
Gilded Age bars catering to working me would offer free lunches.  Mostly made up of salty sandwiches and snacks, so that the customers would feel thirsty and buy more beer.
Unethical then, unethical now.
Just like all the public-policy equivalents.

Two of my favor sayings Tanstaafl and Caveat Emptor
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #377 on: October 24, 2019, 01:34:29 PM »
I tend to be wary of Latin sayings.  Especially if I'm buying.
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