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Topic: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #336 on: October 23, 2019, 03:50:57 PM »
I don't mind discussing politics with someone rational and reasonable.

If that person is not able to admit that the party they are aligned with is a part of the probelm and guilty of the same crap tactics as the other party, then I refuse to have a discussion.

In this two party system, neither party is clean.  IMO
That's the greatest thing about being a Libertarian! I never have to worry about my party being corrupted by power, because we'll never have any power! :)

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #337 on: October 23, 2019, 03:59:44 PM »
That's the greatest thing about being a Libertarian! I never have to worry about my party being corrupted by power, because we'll never have any power! :)

Ha! (fellow libertarian)
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #338 on: October 23, 2019, 04:31:48 PM »
I dated a librarian once.  She was kinda bookish and Dewey eyed.

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #339 on: October 23, 2019, 04:59:36 PM »
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #340 on: October 23, 2019, 05:59:41 PM »
I dated a girl in college who eventually became a librarian.  She was fun and all sorts of surprising.  So there's that.

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #341 on: October 23, 2019, 06:26:05 PM »
Since I am a member of neither "team" and don't feel either one represents my preferred ideals and policies particularly well, I end up being more of a neutral observer.  I see REALLY smart friends and relatives at each other's throats, for no reason other than their team identity.  It's especially bad on social media, possibly due to the arm's-length nature of that type of communication, and possibly due to the relative anonymity of internet fighting with "friends of friends."  But I also see it live, in person, all the time.

It baffles me.  Three decades ago and more, people disagreed on matters of policy and ideology, and discussed it openly, and were still able to remain cordial if not friendly.  That's just not common anymore, at all.  It's sad, I feel.  I'm not sure how to navigate back, as long as people choose to identify with a particular team, rather than ideals.  I just don't see it getting any better.
I think social media has been VERY damaging in this sense. 

I.e. on this board [and its predecessors], we all learned about each other through a certain non-political prism. And as a result, we made our opinions of each other [for good or ill] based on things that were not political. Once those opinions hardened, they were less likely to be overridden by political beliefs, especially when politics was <1% of the discussion here. 

I think this is how life was prior to social media. You became friends with people through all sorts of things, and very rarely was it because you met at a political rally. So you built friendships that were basically unencumbered by politics, and then over the years you realized that sometimes your friends didn't agree on politics, but so be it. You didn't have to sit around talking politics all the time.

But then came social media... Where the nature of the communication is a one-to-many share, which is highly conducive to political activism rather than a conversation with a friend. It's also highly conducive to communication-by-meme, which is about the lowest common denominator of political activism. Memes are about promulgating emotions, not about reasoned debate. Reasoned debate produces "tl;dr". 

So all of a sudden you're being bombarded by the half-baked political opinions of your long-time friends, your extended family [crazy Aunt Ruth], those half-way acquaintances who you don't actually talk to but it would be rude to not accept a friend request, and often all sorts of other people that don't make it into your inner circle but who are close enough that you're "Facebook friends". And bombarded with all this, it is sometimes hard not to try to push back by spouting your *own* half-baked political opinions. And thus become part of the problem.

I don't do Facebook any more because of this. I simply can't go on Facebook without getting angry in the first 10 minutes. And literally if I spend more than 15, suddenly I want to reply to the morons. But if I do that, then I'm part of the problem. So I don't do it at all.

But that's an impulse that most people have trouble controlling, so Facebook becomes a cesspool which does more to HARM our relationships with the people in our lives than to help. But everyone's afraid to unplug.

So it gets worse, and worse. And I don't see a solution on the horizon.

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #342 on: October 23, 2019, 06:27:09 PM »
So, I had a filling drop out.  Dentist says molar is cracked.  Bummer.

Anaesthesia is under appreciated.  He almost put his foot on my shoulder tugging.  Finally came out, split in two.

I walked home, felt fine until the drugs wore off.  Now on amoxicillin and Peridex.  I'm getting younger all the time.

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #343 on: October 23, 2019, 06:28:21 PM »
Composure and apathy help a lot.

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #344 on: October 23, 2019, 06:40:51 PM »
Anaesthesia is under appreciated.  He almost put his foot on my shoulder tugging.  Finally came out, split in two.
I have a very high tolerance for Novocaine. All of my childhood, my Dr thought I was being a baby because he'd shoot me up with Novocaine, while I'd be white-knuckling the dentist chair in pain as the work was being done. I'd tell him I could still feel the pain, but he thought it was psychosomatic or something based on the sound of the drill. 

No, jackwagon, it f'ing hurts!

It wasn't until I finally started going to my current dentist that I / we figured it out. He could visibly tell when working on my teeth that I was just grueling my way through it, and stopped, asking me "can you feel that?" I said yeah, it still hurts quite a bit! He shot me up with *more* Novocaine, and suddenly I got to experience what normal people do when going through dental work... Dental work still sucks, but it isn't excruciating painful. 

I have so many bad memories of my childhood dentist, and now I realize it was that he was just incompetent and couldn't tell that the anesthesia wasn't strong enough. (Or maybe he was a sadist--he IS a dentist after all.)

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #345 on: October 23, 2019, 06:48:45 PM »
I have that same problem with Novocain. Just last week I too had a filling fall out.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #346 on: October 23, 2019, 06:56:34 PM »
I think this guy used trimethyl happy juice.  It worked until it didn't.

Now, bone graft, implant, new fake tooth.


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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #347 on: October 23, 2019, 07:35:00 PM »
I would not hold out against torture.

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #348 on: October 23, 2019, 08:18:59 PM »

@bwarbiany 

I’ve never had Facebook but have used twitter for over 5 years. Twitter was coded exactly for spouting reactive talking points at the expense of thoughtful nuance so it’s no surprise politics is the defining identity for most user’s Twitter activity. It’s not worth lamenting Twitter’s acidic nature of political discourse, BUT it is worth wondering about the mental state of some of the users who clearly spend ALL day long politically reacting to every last trending headline.



My question is - what the heck happened to Facebook?!?!



For the first ten or so years of its run it seemed a friendlier, more personal place to post pictures of pets, new haircuts, toddler’s birthdays, inspirational quotes, college admission letters, Halloween costumes, travel selfies, church announcements, cookouts, car wash fundraisers - in short, the substance of day to day high school and family innocence.



But in the past two years a number of my buddies have told me they don’t even log in anymore due to how mean of a place Facebook has become.

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #349 on: October 23, 2019, 11:58:49 PM »
Their algorithms got out of control, ethically.  Fb is in the money-making business and outrage gets the most clicks.  It's taking a truth about human beings and exploiting it, period.


It'd be like selling bottled water (nothing wrong with that), but then gradually adding tasteless ingredients that make the customer (don't call them a person!) thirstier.  


And it's not necessarily a purely unethical practice - it's a greed-first practice that simply didn't care to worry about the potential unethical snowball growing out of control.
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