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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #602 on: July 15, 2020, 06:12:10 PM »
It was very fun having a lifted V8 ZJ, as inefficient as it was.  I could always just power through - never got stuck in a variety of very hair situations. 

Yeah you're definitely not buying and driving any of these vehicles for the sake of efficiency.  The JK consumes a tank of gas per week on a good week.

But we've already taken it rock-crawling a few times now, and even with only the slightly lifted factory suspension that comes standard with the Rubicon package, and standard Rubicon 33" Mud Terrain tires, it's remarkable how easily it handles some very technical trails and obstacles.  Having the automatic push-button lockers and push-button sway bar disconnect is pretty freaking awesome.  I think our next mod will be on-board air so that we can air down and air back up really quickly.

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« Reply #603 on: July 15, 2020, 06:14:59 PM »
Speaking of potentially being dumb, rumors abound that Jeep is going to be putting Dodge's 392 Hemi V8 in Wranglers in the near future.  That seems wildly unsafe... and awesome!


Is it just me... Or do the front and rear tires not match? Something about that looks very, very wrong.

But yeah... Wildly unsafe. And awesome.

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« Reply #604 on: July 15, 2020, 06:15:11 PM »
  Having the automatic push-button lockers and push-button sway bar disconnect is pretty freaking awesome.  I think our next mod will be on-board air so that we can air down and air back up really quickly.
This part is incredible, and may take the fun/challenge out of it.  It's only exhilirating if there's some risk involved.
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #605 on: July 15, 2020, 06:15:54 PM »
I can see it if I lived a bit out in the boonies.  Which I don't.  I live in in the boonies.  What are boonies anyway?

I think the GTI is a near ideal "city car".  It has decent room, it's maneuverable, it's fairly small, it has good acceleration, it handles well, the doors don't come off (easily) not would I want them to (normally).

I keep noting that none of "us" generally can drive a C8 Corvette et al, at anything like its capabilities, so why have them?

Get a fun car, one with no doors maybe.

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« Reply #606 on: July 15, 2020, 06:16:41 PM »
Yeah you're definitely not buying and driving any of these vehicles for the sake of efficiency.  The JK consumes a tank of gas per week on a good week.

But we've already taken it rock-crawling a few times now, and even with only the slightly lifted factory suspension that comes standard with the Rubicon package, and standard Rubicon 33" Mud Terrain tires, it's remarkable how easily it handles some very technical trails and obstacles.  Having the automatic push-button lockers and push-button sway bar disconnect is pretty freaking awesome.  I think our next mod will be on-board air so that we can air down and air back up really quickly.
I want to lift it and go to 35s. My Rubicon was a 2009 with 32s. Also want to replace the front/rear bumpers and fender flares. 

I don't need a giant light bar on mine, since I live in California instead of Texas, and it's illegal here to drive on the beach anyway... 

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #607 on: July 15, 2020, 06:17:56 PM »
That Hemi term strikes me as pure marketing, fairly successful I think.

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« Reply #608 on: July 15, 2020, 06:23:51 PM »
I can see it if I lived a bit out in the boonies.  Which I don't.  I live in in the boonies.  What are boonies anyway?

I think the GTI is a near ideal "city car".  It has decent room, it's maneuverable, it's fairly small, it has good acceleration, it handles well, the doors don't come off (easily) not would I want them to (normally).
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The expression was introduced to English by U.S. military personnel fighting in the Philippine–American War (1899-1902).[3][4] It derives from the Tagalog word "bundók",[note 1] which means "mountain".[5][6][7] According to military historian Paul A. Kramer, the term originally had "connotations of bewilderment and confusion", due to the guerrilla warfare in which the soldiers were engaged.[4]

In the Philippines, the word bundók is also a colloquialism referring to rural inland areas, which are usually mountainous and difficult to access, as most major cities and settlements in the Philippines are located in lowlands or near the coastline.[6] Equivalent terms include the Spanish-derived probinsiya ("province") and the Cebuano term bukid ("mountain").[note 2][8][9] When used generally, the term refers to a rustic or uncivilized area. When referring to people (taga-bundok or probinsiyano in Tagalog; taga-bukid in Cebuano; English: "someone who comes from the mountains/provinces"), it acquires a derogatory connotation of a stereotype of unsophisticated, ignorant, and illiterate country people.[10]
Oddly enough, I actually live in a pretty good place for a Jeep. We have a lot of open fire roads in the mountains here. I don't have to drive very far from my house to get access to national park fire roads. It's not exactly "rock crawling", and you don't need a serious Jeep to do it, but it's a fun little outing. 

For as much as people complain about SoCal being crowded, it doesn't actually take all that much effort to find pretty empty hiking trails or off-roading territory. 



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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #609 on: July 15, 2020, 06:25:13 PM »
I want to lift it and go to 35s. My Rubicon was a 2009 with 32s. Also want to replace the front/rear bumpers and fender flares.

I don't need a giant light bar on mine, since I live in California instead of Texas, and it's illegal here to drive on the beach anyway...
Yeah I have no plans of putting massive light bars on ours, either.  Maybe a couple of old-school KC daylighters down on the bumper-mounted push bar, right over the winch.   But that would really just be for emergency night-time maneuvering, rather than any serious night-running on the beach or trails.

And I could see us someday lifting this one a bit more and going to 35s.  But I prefer the look of the factory fenders flares though, over all of the aftermarket ones I've seen, so we'll leave those alone.

Next mods are probably onboard air, a softtop that converts all the way down, and a new metal powdercoated rear bumper to match the front bumper I put on a month ago.



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« Reply #610 on: July 15, 2020, 06:29:07 PM »
That Hemi term strikes me as pure marketing, fairly successful I think.
Could be?  I don't worry too much about marketing terms, but regardless of what it's called, it would be 6.4L V8 fitted into a fairly small, light vehicle with a high center of gravity and a relatively short wheelbase.  That spells all kinds of disaster, but what glorious carnage it could be. :)
 

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« Reply #611 on: July 15, 2020, 06:31:41 PM »
But I prefer the look of the factory fenders flares though, over all of the aftermarket ones I've seen, so we'll leave those alone.
If they start showing severe fade due to sun damage, there's an easy and cheap fix--a heat gun. 

My fender flares and the bumpers were basically turning not only gray, but almost white in areas. I bought a $15 heat gun from Harbor Freight or Amazon (or wherever--I don't remember) and with light application it turned everything back to black. You're effectively re-melting the plastic, so you need a light hand and can't leave the heat gun over one area too long, but it works. 

That said, I don't really like the look of the stock ones so I want something more minimalist. 

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #612 on: July 15, 2020, 06:32:25 PM »
A modern 6.4 L V-8 will have a lot of HP and torque without being called a "hemi", which basically says it has an antiquated valve design, but not really.

The Chevy 6.2 L can produce 495 hp in the new Vette.  They don't call it a "Hemi", and it also is an antiquated valve design. 

The Z06 is supposedly going to be a smaller 5.5 L DOHC flat plane crank modern design with more power.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #613 on: July 15, 2020, 06:35:06 PM »
Could be?  I don't worry too much about marketing terms, but regardless of what it's called, it would be 6.4L V8 fitted into a fairly small, light vehicle with a high center of gravity and a relatively short wheelbase.  That spells all kinds of disaster, but what glorious carnage it could be. :)
 
Light? Even a 2-door 2020 Wrangler Rubicon is a >2-ton vehicle...

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #614 on: July 15, 2020, 06:38:00 PM »
If they start showing severe fade due to sun damage, there's an easy and cheap fix--a heat gun.

My fender flares and the bumpers were basically turning not only gray, but almost white in areas. I bought a $15 heat gun from Harbor Freight or Amazon (or wherever--I don't remember) and with light application it turned everything back to black. You're effectively re-melting the plastic, so you need a light hand and can't leave the heat gun over one area too long, but it works.

That said, I don't really like the look of the stock ones so I want something more minimalist.
Cool, I have a heat gun leftover from many electrical wiring projects over the years, so I might try that if necessary.  My 2005 Tahoe fenders would fade a bit, but the black trim restorer I used always brought it right back and would last for another 6 months or so.  Forget which brand, it might be the Meguiars or it might be the Mother's version.  Or maybe something else. My brother gave me a bunch of it when he sold his late 90s XTerra that also suffered from trim fade.

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« Reply #615 on: July 15, 2020, 06:39:55 PM »
Ever try naphtha? Used to work well on my Porsche and Volvo bumpers that would fade.
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