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Not fine with me.

The messaging sucks.

Why should I wear a mask if I'm fully vaccinated and had Covid already?

Why should I get vaccinated if I still have to wear a mask?

How does anyone know who and who is not fully vaccinated?

What a crock O' shit.

This one is going to be irrelevant, very soon.  By the end of June, every single person that wants the vaccine, will have had the chance to get it.  And all those remaining, have chosen to take their chances.

Excluding of course the very small percentage of people that are compromised in some way that makes then completely unable to receive the vaccine. But those people were always going to be vulnerable, and they will need to be extremely cautious in their interactions with others.  

I'm at ORD right now, and I'm being forced to wear a mask.

I agree, early in this folks weren't sure about much at all, but now things are fairly clear.  The CDC is just slow to adopt the obvious for some reason, an abundance of caution I suppose.  And, they understand their advice often is misunderstood and misapplied as well.  But like any large organization, they operate by committee.

I'm hopeful we can use this experience and apply some lessons learned and some best practices from around the country, and around the globe, before the next one.

The loss of life due to COVID has been tragic, but in many ways we're also pretty lucky that the virus itself isn't MORE dangerous.  It's really sobering to imagine what might happen if the next bug we encounter is as lethal as something like Ebola, but is able to hide and transmit during the presymptomatic phase as well as this novel coronavirus does.  I've said it before, but I feel like this has been our opportunity to pressure-test our response systems, and find the (numerous) failure points.  So that for the next one, the REALLY BIG ONE, we're much better prepared.

I believe in the scientific community to be able to do that.  I just don't know that, once the findings make their way over to the bureaucrats, any significant change is going to be allowed.

I think if something is super lethal, it won't transmit well unless there is a long contagious period with few/no symptoms.  Ebola doesn't spread much in part because it kills to fast.  And in part because you get it from bodily fluids apparently.

The COVID thing is because of the long period without symptoms, I think, or no symptoms ever.  Combine that with eventual high lethality and you'd have a major shut down of everything, nobody would leave their homes.

Right.  That's exactly what I'm saying.

Historically, the super-lethal viruses have killed too quickly to spread.  But there's no absolute scientific reason for that.  This novel coronavirus has a unique spike protein and attacks numerous body systems in ways we've never seen before.  There's no reason why a more deadly virus won't evolve, that can stay hidden longer, and attack in numerous unexpected ways, like this one does.

There's no scientific reason to think that won't, or can't, happen. 

I think really once something of that ilk hits and is understood, we all have to bunker down in place for months.

And yes, the death toll could be 20% of the global pop.  The 1918 flu was close to that, high mortality among middle aged folks, less among the aged.  That also would make something worse, the older folks would be having to try and care for the younger.

I see your point, if the symptoms are delayed for six months or more, we're all done for, aside from the usual random resistance some of us have.

The Plague apparently killed a third of Europe back in the day.  They couldn't figure out how it was transmitted.  But something with delayed symptoms?  Scary.