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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10094 on: October 31, 2020, 01:29:41 AM »
That is utterly nonsensical.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10095 on: October 31, 2020, 08:52:28 AM »
The WHO, CNN, MSNBC, etc. were referring to the virus as the "Chinese Virus" up until China told them not to. 

Then is was racist. Just sayin'.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10096 on: October 31, 2020, 09:49:10 AM »
I don't see how France can maintain this level of shut down for more than a month tops.  They WILL protest, and often, and that spreads the thing obviously.  Yellow vests, green, blue, red, whatever.

Germany took more measured steps, though one might opine they won't do much.

Sweden is worse than they were months ago, new records there also, nearly 3400 new cases Oct. 28.

The state of Georgia is ticking up but running about 1,500 new cases per day now about the same pop. as Sweden.  France is running close to 50,000 new reported cases per day.  That is about five times more per capita than the US.

I lean to thinking it's a new variant/mutation/strain that is more communicable.  Hopefully it is less virulent.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10097 on: October 31, 2020, 09:58:47 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 31, 2020, 09:49:10 AM
I don't see how France can maintain this level of shut down for more than a month tops.  They WILL protest, and often, and that spreads the thing obviously.  Yellow vests, green, blue, red, whatever.

Germany took more measured steps, though one might opine they won't do much.

Sweden is worse than they were months ago, new records there also, nearly 3400 new cases Oct. 28.

The state of Georgia is ticking up but running about 1,500 new cases per day now about the same pop. as Sweden.  France is running close to 50,000 new reported cases per day.  That is about five times more per capita than the US.

I lean to thinking it's a new variant/mutation/strain that is more communicable.  Hopefully it is less virulent.
If thats the case you would think doctors would find out about it but so far not a word
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10098 on: October 31, 2020, 10:00:13 AM »
82K tests in FL Thursday, 4.2K positive. Hospitalizations down. Median age for positive is 40. That keeps going down. 

Trends are positive here.

Testing is WAY up here. 0.5 Million last week.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10099 on: October 31, 2020, 10:09:41 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on October 31, 2020, 09:58:47 AM
If thats the case you would think doctors would find out about it but so far not a word
I posted on this thread a report about a Spanish variant that MAY be causing this new outbreak.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10100 on: October 31, 2020, 10:48:08 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 31, 2020, 10:09:41 AM
I posted on this thread a report about a Spanish variant that MAY be causing this new outbreak.
OK I stand corrected

Still no word if this has reached the US or what particular features this variant has
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10101 on: October 31, 2020, 10:51:45 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 31, 2020, 10:09:41 AM
I posted on this thread a report about a Spanish variant that MAY be causing this new outbreak.
Ah the long dormant Spanish Flu tag teaming with the Chinese Flu
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10102 on: October 31, 2020, 11:03:39 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10103 on: October 31, 2020, 11:58:17 AM »
https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-spain-variant/scientists-identify-prolific-coronavirus-strain-which-started-in-spain-and-spread-across-europe-idUSKBN27E2RS


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.25.20219063v1


Abstract
A variant of SARS-CoV-2 emerged in early summer 2020, presumably in Spain, and has since spread to multiple European countries. The variant was first observed in Spain in June and has been at frequencies above 40% since July. Outside of Spain, the frequency of this variant has increased from very low values prior to 15th July to 40-70% in Switzerland, Ireland, and the United Kingdom in September. It is also prevalent in Norway, Latvia, the Netherlands, and France. Little can be said about other European countries because few recent sequences are available. Sequences in this cluster (20A.EU1) differ from ancestral sequences at 6 or more positions, including the mutation A222V in the spike protein and A220V in the nucleoprotein. We show that this variant was exported from Spain to other European countries multiple times and that much of the diversity of this cluster in Spain is observed across Europe. It is currently unclear whether this variant is spreading because of a transmission advantage of the virus or whether high incidence in Spain followed by dissemination through tourists is sufficient to explain the rapid rise in multiple countries.
CAVEATS
  • This variant rose in frequency in multiple countries, but we have no direct evidence that it spreads faster. The rise in frequency could also be due to epidemiological factors.
  • There are currently no data to evaluate whether this variant affects the severity of the disease.
  • While dominant in some countries, 20A.EU1 has not taken over everywhere and diverse variants of SARS-CoV-2 continue to circulate across Europe.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10104 on: October 31, 2020, 12:06:05 PM »
I guess all we can do is keep an eye on hospitalizations and deaths to know if this is worse, or better. Right?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10105 on: October 31, 2020, 12:08:51 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 31, 2020, 12:06:05 PM
I guess all we can do is keep an eye on hospitalizations and deaths to know if this is worse, or better. Right?
Yep. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10106 on: October 31, 2020, 01:04:25 PM »
Same as always.  Absolute cases or case positivity rates just don't tell us much.  Hospitalizations and ICU are the best ways to measure impact to a community.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10107 on: October 31, 2020, 01:09:09 PM »
A big move in cases reported is illustrative, see France.  Something happened there.
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