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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10066 on: October 30, 2020, 03:56:48 PM »
I agree that calling it the China virus had political motivation, and still does for some, but really, I don't care what you call it.

I'm not offended if you call it the CV nor do I take it as political.  I use the term COVID of course.

I'm more interested in trying to understand what's happening and about to happen.  That dip in Aug/Sept has me perplexed, though if the new surge is a new variant ...

France is committing what to me looks to be economic suicide to try and curtail this.  And I fear the attempt is too little/ too late/too much/not enough/and not ideal.
Well look at who is running the country

I just hope the "we must shut downers" are paying attention
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10067 on: October 30, 2020, 04:01:54 PM »
I'm more interested in trying to understand what's happening and about to happen.  That dip in Aug/Sept has me perplexed, though if the new surge is a new variant ...

France is committing what to me looks to be economic suicide to try and curtail this.  And I fear the attempt is too little/ too late/too much/not enough/and not ideal.

No dip here, just a pretty steady downward trend.  So there's nothing really to understand, not singularly-- it's quite regional.  Trying to approach the US monolithically would be fruitless.

As far as France, the real problem for them, is that the novel coronavirus is still going to be around when they come out of this in 3 months.  It's not going away.  So they're going to do extreme damage to their country, and at most they just delay the next wave by those 3 months.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10068 on: October 30, 2020, 04:08:34 PM »
Why is it regional in the US?  Georgia is starting to edge up some, but it's not terrible (yet) and not as bad as in June/July.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10069 on: October 30, 2020, 04:12:33 PM »
the upper midwest started to edge up quite a bit, a couple months ago
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10070 on: October 30, 2020, 04:15:59 PM »
is there any connection to football and schools openings
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10071 on: October 30, 2020, 04:18:52 PM »
And you can feel free to discuss whatever political bits you like, somewhere else. 


So this is getting to my very point. We're either going to allow politics here, or we're not.

If we aren't, then we should be excising things that plainly have strong political overtones.

Badge, no one is disagreeing that the Chinese government engaged in a cover up that almost certainly made this pandemic far, far worse.

But engaging in talk about the Wuhan lab stuff, and referring to it by its politically charged name are plainly political.

320, to answer your question, no, I'm not Chinese-American, but many of my friends and neighbors have Asian heritage. Why does this matter?

Because words matter. And we know that using terms like "China Flu" are grist for the racist mill. That does NOT (using all caps, bolding, underlining, and italics to make sure that you read that--if you're confused, read it again) mean you're racist if you use them, but their use results in more racism. Anti-Asian racism is way up in this country, and using terms like "China Flu" exacerbates that. Isn't that reason enough not to use it?

So even here in pretty blue northern California, there has been a significant increase in the number of anti-Asian racist acts, and my friends and neighbors absolutely have been impacted by that.

So, yes, I do care what you call it because it does matter.

And to Utee's point, if we're going to discuss opinion pieces by heavily politically slanted sources, then lets not pretend that this is a politics free zone.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10072 on: October 30, 2020, 04:37:32 PM »


320, to answer your question, no, I'm not Chinese-American, but many of my friends and neighbors have Asian heritage. Why does this matter?

I dont give 2 hoots in hell what your linage is Im just trying to understand your bent

as far as China is concerned I feel like Americans must have felt after Pearl Harbor

I consider what China did as an attack on the US and the world

I really dont care if it offends China to call it the China virus

If China doesnt want to be referred to as the host country for the virus thay should have not taken the actions they did

Ive got a lot of friends of Chinese descent and even most of them refer to it as the Chinese virus

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10073 on: October 30, 2020, 04:39:36 PM »
What one considers political another may not.

I wonder if some would think calling it COVID is political.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10074 on: October 30, 2020, 04:54:08 PM »
A surge in coronavirus cases has led officials in one western Iowa county to require people to wear faces masks in public.

The Harrison County Board on Thursday approved the mask mandate in a 2-1 vote, according to television station KETV.

Supervisor John Straight, who voted for the mandate, said he hopes requiring masks will help reduce virus numbers in the county, where the positivity rate of the virus has topped 20% for three straight weeks.

“It’s really a hot issue, and it is hard,” Straight said. "It was hard on us today.”


Supervisor Walter Utman also voted for the mandate, while Tony Smith voted no. All three supervisors are Republicans in a county that heavily leans toward the GOP, with state data showing active registered Republicans outnumber Democrats by a more than 2-to-1 ratio.

Outbreaks in elder care facilities have been driving the county's numbers up, said Brad Brake, the county's health administrator. Brake said 266 of the county’s more than 700 confirmed cases come from nursing homes, and 16 COVID-19 deaths had been recorded in the county as of Friday.


State data also indicated 31 counties have a positivity rate above 15% and all 99 of the state’s counties are now above 5%, a level at which many health professionals recommend face masks, social distancing and limits on crowd sizes.

The Harrison County mandate is expected to go into effect by Nov. 9 and be revisited after 30 days. The goal is to reach a positivity rate below 10% for 14 straight days, Brake said.

“Once that threshold is hit, then it will no longer be in effect for that next 30-day period,” he said
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10075 on: October 30, 2020, 04:56:57 PM »
Republicans in a rural county of 15,000 issuing a mask mandate.

Some don't see only a political issue
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10076 on: October 30, 2020, 05:00:16 PM »
I just don't understand why masks are a big deal. 

There's a degree to which I understand the hatred of a mandate--I'm a libertarian and I hate being told what to do. But I wear a mask because it seems like it's one of the better ways that we as a society can try to reduce R0. 

Can someone, anyone, explain this to me? Why are some people SO anti-mask? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10077 on: October 30, 2020, 05:17:48 PM »
I just don't understand why masks are a big deal.

There's a degree to which I understand the hatred of a mandate--I'm a libertarian and I hate being told what to do. But I wear a mask because it seems like it's one of the better ways that we as a society can try to reduce R0.

Can someone, anyone, explain this to me? Why are some people SO anti-mask?
No idea.   Don’t know , nor have I ever met anyone who is anti mask.  Makes no sense 

Now that we’re down this path quite away I do know quite a few people who have contacted Covid and every single one of them is somebody I would label is very strict mask people who surround themselves with other very strict mask people
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10078 on: October 30, 2020, 05:33:47 PM »

Can someone, anyone, explain this to me? Why are some people SO anti-mask?
just to be belligerent 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10079 on: October 30, 2020, 05:56:36 PM »
I've been chastised for not wearing a mask in an open public space where there was zero chance of someone coming within 20 feet of me unless they deliberately tried.

And, they deliberately tried, in order to chastise me.

I just brushed it off, I wasn't breaking any laws or mandates, nor was I doing anything that is dangerous from a public health perspective.

But if some people that are less forgiving than I am, were approached in the same way, I could certainly see some anti-mask sentiment arising from that interaction.

 

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