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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5586 on: June 20, 2020, 08:04:53 PM »
I'm proud of my fellow Tulsans for failing to fill the 19,000-seat arena, despite the POTUS' claims that over a hundred thousand people had requested tickets.  Local news is showing the same story as those pics on Twitter.  Maybe 12,000 or so in attendance would be my guess.

I was at POTUS' inauguration.  His speech that day--surely one of the worst-ever--was perfectly consistent with how he will campaign this summer.  His claim in the days that followed his inauguration that his crowd was the largest ever, much larger than his predecessor's, was perfectly consistent with the claims he has made about the crowd in Tulsa.  I can hardly wait to hear the explanation for the poor showing.

Wait!  The explanation is already out!  It seems that many thousands of people ordered tickets with no intention of showing up!  Damned libtard snowflakes!
The data side of me really wants to use this rally as a sort of case study for football.  I would love to have tracing data and whatnot.

But I'm a nerd, so...

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« Reply #5587 on: June 20, 2020, 08:15:07 PM »
The campaign blames protesters and, of course, the media for the low turnout. Had they been more on the ball they could have easily had the rally with social distancing and masks and looked a lot better and also not been as irresponsible.

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« Reply #5588 on: June 20, 2020, 09:07:11 PM »
If people would just wear masks everywhere, this would be behind us (for now).  Instead, it's been politicized for God knows why.  It's a no brainer...oh, wait, I get it.

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« Reply #5589 on: June 20, 2020, 10:09:42 PM »
Use aon.askjeeves.com/overturnroe for the only legit search engine
That was a good joke. But to perfectly honest with you, Google is no longer a search engine company, they engage in illegal monopolistic behavior, and it is most definitely run by complete whack jobs, and it is most definitely bad for society. 

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« Reply #5590 on: June 20, 2020, 10:14:47 PM »
I have read various summaries of studies that show things along that line.  For example, many couples with long and happy marriages say that they were happiest early on when they were working hard to make ends meet.  But I had never seen a dollar figure put to that conclusion.
I firmly believe that there is great satisfaction to be derived from a good work experience--working hard, doing it well, and being recognized for having done so.  Or even if the hard worker believes that he/she is doing a good job.  We devalue work--greatly to our detriment--when we devise social-welfare programs designed to enable people to "follow their dreams" without having to work.
We seem to have gone off in a "Stream of Unconciousness" direction here.
Agree 100%. 

People tend to lack purpose. They tend to do jobs that they hate just in order to make a living. Many of these people are people who make a lot of money. Deep down they don’t like or even hate what they do but they are good at it and make a lot of money at it. 

People that are the happiest tend to find what they love to do for work and then it’s never like work for them. They tend to find purpose in their work and it gives them meaning and makes them feel fulfilled. 

That’s my two cents anyway.

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« Reply #5591 on: June 20, 2020, 10:17:46 PM »
The campaign blames protesters and, of course, the media for the low turnout. Had they been more on the ball they could have easily had the rally with social distancing and masks and looked a lot better and also not been as irresponsible.
Not sure where your getting this- but seeing it is attempting to discredit the rally before it starts- your slurping the spew from XiNN.  

or maybe your following the elites on social media- lol.  The same ones whining that this would be a packed arena. Covid covid!! Now- I am sure crowing if they think the arena wasn’t packed.  Lol.   So triggered and woke. 
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« Reply #5592 on: June 20, 2020, 10:21:10 PM »
If people would just wear masks everywhere, this would be behind us (for now).  Instead, it's been politicized for God knows why.  It's a no brainer...oh, wait, I get it.
Well two things.  

1) Fauci admitted to lying about the entire mask thing, so now people distrust him and their government. 

2) WHO just now said that asymptotic spread is incredibly rare. I believe those were their exact words. 

And the masks- unless they are a specific type called N95- which most people don’t have this type of mask- don’t stop the virus particles from entering, they stop the wearer from letting any virus particles he or she may have from getting out. 

So if it can’t be spread by those who are asymptomatic, and if the vast majority of masks that people have don’t filter out the virus particles- it almost seems like a moot point to me. 

Wear a mask if you’re out and about and you’re showing symptoms. Really you should be away isolated and alone in quarantine if you have symptoms, but if you have to be out wear a mask. 

Unless you’re symptomatic or you are around people that are symptomatic and unless you have an N95 mask- makes no sense at all too wear a mask. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5593 on: June 20, 2020, 10:22:45 PM »
Well two things. 

1) Fauci admitted to lying about the entire mask thing, so now people distrust him and their government.

2) WHO just now said that asymptotic spread is incredibly rare. I believe those were their exact words.

And the masks- unless they are a specific type called N95- which most people don’t have this type of mask- don’t stop the virus particles from entering, they stop the wearer from letting any virus particles he or she may have from getting out.

So if it can’t be spread by those who are asymptomatic, and if the vast majority of masks that people have don’t filter out the virus particles- it almost seems like a moot point to me.

Wear a mask if you’re out and about and you’re showing symptoms. Really you should be away isolated and alone in quarantine if you have symptoms, but if you have to be out wear a mask.

Unless you’re symptomatic or you are around people that are symptomatic and unless you have an N95 mask- makes no sense at all too wear a mask.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5594 on: June 20, 2020, 10:24:43 PM »
Well two things. 

1) Fauci admitted to lying about the entire mask thing, so now people distrust him and their government.

2) WHO just now said that asymptotic spread is incredibly rare. I believe those were their exact words.

And the masks- unless they are a specific type called N95- which most people don’t have this type of mask- don’t stop the virus particles from entering, they stop the wearer from letting any virus particles he or she may have from getting out.

So if it can’t be spread by those who are asymptomatic, and if the vast majority of masks that people have don’t filter out the virus particles- it almost seems like a moot point to me.

Wear a mask if you’re out and about and you’re showing symptoms. Really you should be away isolated and alone in quarantine if you have symptoms, but if you have to be out wear a mask.

Unless you’re symptomatic or you are around people that are symptomatic and unless you have an N95 mask- makes no sense at all too wear a mask.
wait till next week and he'll say the opposite
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5595 on: June 20, 2020, 10:53:02 PM »
Not sure where your getting this- but seeing it is attempting to discredit the rally before it starts- your slurping the spew from XiNN. 

or maybe your following the elites on social media- lol.  The same ones whining that this would be a packed arena. Covid covid!! Now- I am sure crowing if they think the arena wasn’t packed.  Lol.  So triggered and woke.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5596 on: June 20, 2020, 10:55:08 PM »
You're truly lost.
Millions of us are.  Show us the way lol
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5597 on: June 20, 2020, 11:33:50 PM »
Not sure where your getting this- but seeing it is attempting to discredit the rally before it starts- your slurping the spew from XiNN. 

or maybe your following the elites on social media- lol.  The same ones whining that this would be a packed arena. Covid covid!! Now- I am sure crowing if they think the arena wasn’t packed.  Lol.  So triggered and woke.
That's sort of old fashioned thinking. You can get real time news over the various social media apps without any input at all from "elites" or XiNN or whatever the latest thing we should distrust.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5598 on: June 21, 2020, 12:30:05 AM »
HB:
What Sam said is correct.  The campaign announced that protesters had bought up all the tickets so that only about 12,000 of the 100,000 who allegedly wanted to attend actually could do so.
And the speech that was supposed to go to the overflow crowd was canceled because there was no overflow crowd.
I didn't get that from woke elites.  It all went down about 6 miles from where I'm sitting.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5599 on: June 21, 2020, 12:49:43 AM »
Well two things. 

1) Fauci admitted to lying about the entire mask thing, so now people distrust him and their government.

2) WHO just now said that asymptotic spread is incredibly rare. I believe those were their exact words.

And the masks- unless they are a specific type called N95- which most people don’t have this type of mask- don’t stop the virus particles from entering, they stop the wearer from letting any virus particles he or she may have from getting out.

So if it can’t be spread by those who are asymptomatic, and if the vast majority of masks that people have don’t filter out the virus particles- it almost seems like a moot point to me.

Wear a mask if you’re out and about and you’re showing symptoms. Really you should be away isolated and alone in quarantine if you have symptoms, but if you have to be out wear a mask.

Unless you’re symptomatic or you are around people that are symptomatic and unless you have an N95 mask- makes no sense at all too wear a mask.
Japan is a country where mask wearing has been common, and is regarded as a courtesy. As of June 20, 2020, COVID-19 deaths in Japan were 952, compared to June 20, 2020 deaths in the United States of 121,441.

Your surgeon, your surgeon's nurses, and your dentist have worn masks for your protection for years. I ridiculed the statement about masks when first made because it made no sense whatsoever. Why have surgical staff and dentists been wasting money on masks if they were not to prevent spread of disease to those they were hovering over? Masks were then in short supply is why the statement was made. I was planning to fly and bought some immediately despite Fauci's dumb statement because it obviously was made to forestall a run on masks.

WHO almost immediately took back its statement on asymptomatic spread and there is much evidence that one is most contagious in the 18-hours or so before one becomes symptomatic.

4 in 5 people in a study in China were likely infected by someone who didn't know they had it. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/asymptomatic-and-pre-symptomatic-coronavirus-spread-whats-the-difference-and-why-does-it-matter/ar-BB15g1TV

If 80% of people would wear masks several researchers say the spread would plummet, and we would no longer have a pandemic. Here is an article about one study that draws this conclusion, but it is not the only study that makes this conclusion. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/masks-covid-19-infections-would-plummet-new-study-says To end the pandemic, the masks do not have to be N95 that protects the wearer, and those around him. Surgical and homemade masks if worn by 80% will end the pandemic. By all means if you want to protect yourself, and others, get the N95 which are in the shortest supply but more are becoming available.

The surgical masks provide some limited protection to the wearer, but are better at protecting those around the wearer.
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