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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2576 on: April 23, 2020, 09:22:03 AM »
I'd note again that this state is not throwing a light switch and returning to normal.  And many mayors are encouraging people to remain in place, and many will be scared to go out much, and many workers will prefer UE payments and not want to work. 

Restaurants are to separate tables, so your primary exposure is your server, which relative to take out is not a huge increase in risk it seems to me.  Outdoor dining should be fine, they can provide take out and let you sit at tables that are separated.

Opening the gyms looks dubious to me, tattoo parlors, whatever else, but they are suppose to limit the number of people inside, so things are still limited.  It should be interesting.

In terms of additional risk, it looks fairly small to me overall.  Somebody needs to try something to see what happens.  That bad part is we won't know for a month what happened, at least.
I hear the bowling alleys will open!
Golf courses, were they closed?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2577 on: April 23, 2020, 09:23:34 AM »
Golf courses have been case by case, not closed by the state.  Bowling alleys can open tomorrow with "distancing" and extra hygiene, kind of like restaurants.

The problem will be laid off workers make more on UE than they do working.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2578 on: April 23, 2020, 09:24:10 AM »
In a followup to a local Houston judges crap ruling

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-judges-30-day-coronavirus-mask-order-blasted-as-ultimate-government-overreach
Is there something different about the Harris County order, compared to, say, the Travis County order, that's been issued for a couple of weeks now?

I certainly understand the fear of government overreach, but this seems like a fairly minor infringement.  I understand that's just my opinion and others might view it as something more than "fairly minor" but in general, if the cost of opening up commerce, is that people will have to wear masks for the next 30 days, I just don't think that's a big deal.

Now, since N95 masks are all but vanished, and surgical masks aren't that easy to get, and not everyone has an awesome mom like I do, to sew them a killer cloth mask-- most of these government orders are allowing for "face coverings" of any kind.  People are responding by wearing bandannas and scarves over their faces, and I'm not certain whether or not there's much point to that.  I'm not sure I've seen any studies on the effectiveness of a scarf at preventing the spread of viruses, either as a protective measure for the wearer, or as a preventive measure from droplets escaping outward in the midst of talking, coughing, sneezing, etc.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2579 on: April 23, 2020, 09:25:38 AM »
Golf courses have been case by case, not closed by the state.  Bowling alleys can open tomorrow with "distancing" and extra hygiene, kind of like restaurants.

The problem will be laid off workers make more on UE than they do working.
Theres bound to be a lot of folks not working who do want a job
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2580 on: April 23, 2020, 09:25:49 AM »
so, there might not be enough workers coming back to run the bowling alley?

not enough servers and hostesses and cooks to open the restaurants?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2581 on: April 23, 2020, 09:26:47 AM »
I don't think golf courses ever shut down here in Central Texico.  I run past a couple of different ones on my regular routes, and they both seem to have been open this entire time.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2582 on: April 23, 2020, 09:28:14 AM »
so, there might not be enough workers coming back to run the bowling alley?

not enough servers and hostesses and cooks to open the restaurants?
What about all those high school and college kids that are basically out of school now, and might want to earn some money?  They weren't working previously so they can't collect UE benefits. And they've got nothing better to do now, except play video games I guess... :)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2583 on: April 23, 2020, 09:28:27 AM »
Is there something different about the Harris County order, compared to, say, the Travis County order, that's been issued for a couple of weeks now?

I certainly understand the fear of government overreach, but this seems like a fairly minor infringement.  I understand that's just my opinion and others might view it as something more than "fairly minor" but in general, if the cost of opening up commerce, is that people will have to wear masks for the next 30 days, I just don't think that's a big deal.

Now, since N95 masks are all but vanished, and surgical masks aren't that easy to get, and not everyone has an awesome mom like I do, to sew them a killer cloth mask-- most of these government orders are allowing for "face coverings" of any kind.  People are responding by wearing bandannas and scarves over their faces, and I'm not certain whether or not there's much point to that.  I'm not sure I've seen any studies on the effectiveness of a scarf at preventing the spread of viruses, either as a protective measure for the wearer, or as a preventive measure from droplets escaping outward in the midst of talking, coughing, sneezing, etc.


I guess what riles me more then anything is the $1,000 fine and 180 days in jail that comes with this ruling

not sure what Travis county has but this is just draconian
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2585 on: April 23, 2020, 09:37:40 AM »
and this face mask ruling is supposed to limit the spread how much???

10%, 25%, 50%, 3%??
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2586 on: April 23, 2020, 09:42:39 AM »
and this face mask ruling is supposed to limit the spread how much???

10%, 25%, 50%, 3%??
Im sure its beneficial to wear a mask but is it legal to be mandatory
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2587 on: April 23, 2020, 09:45:40 AM »
well, it appears to be legal to force closure of many privately owned businesses
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2588 on: April 23, 2020, 09:48:29 AM »
well, it appears to be legal to force closure of many privately owned businesses
see Im not sure it is

In my opinion most of this closing down stuff is voluntary

Unless congress passes a law or martial law is declared it can only be voluntary
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2589 on: April 23, 2020, 09:49:50 AM »
I've heard to police were called to bars that were allowing folks to come in and have a beer or two

not sure how many were arrested
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