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Mdot21

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1834 on: April 14, 2020, 02:51:18 PM »
Maybe focus on the subject of the reporting instead of the reporting itself.  Let's talk about Trump's propaganda video and how the president's authority is "total", shall we? 
Dwelling on the coverage takes away from the content of the reality.  Hmm, seems like a great tactic to me....
Not sure the video was really propaganda- but whatever. I'd call the NY Times sitting on a sexual assault story on Joe Biden for nearly 3 weeks- burying it on page 20 on EASTER SUNDAY- and then editing said story after it was first published online- and then deleting their tweet about said story with an excerpt and hyperlink to the story at the behest of Joe Biden's campaign far more egregious and far closer to propaganda than that silly promo video Trump did. Compare the NYT coverage to that allegation say to the one vs Brett Kavanaguh. LOL.

That Trump video by the way CORRECTLY pointed out the media and Democrats like Biden and Pelosi's hypocrisy and downplaying of the coronavirus. Pelosi was out and about on Feb. 24th in Chinatown saying come to Chinatown! Spend your cash! Don't stay inside! Biden's senile old ass was calling Trump a xenophobe and a racist for instituting a travel ban with China. Hmmm wonder why. Could it have anything at all to do with his son getting a $1.5 billion loan from the CCP?

He's wrong- but so are the people saying he's wrong. This isn't a black and white thing. We are talking about an unprecedented situation in the history of this freaking country. Who decides when the states/economy will re-open- wouldn't be surprised if that is litigated in the courts. This is uncharted waters. Our economy/society isn't set-up to completely shutdown. If this economy doesn't re-open and re-open sooner than later- we could be living through another great depression. And me personally- I am NOT ok with that to save thousands of lives. Not even my own. Sorry. F that. I'm not living like a hermit in my house in fear for 6 months while the world around me crashes and burns into the ground.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1835 on: April 14, 2020, 02:57:45 PM »
Ideally, in this site, none of us would have an inkling as to the politics of anyone else.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1836 on: April 14, 2020, 03:37:28 PM »
You mean like supreme court nominees?  
Personally, on this thread, mdot21 is being an unbearable radical conservative and it stinks.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1837 on: April 14, 2020, 03:50:37 PM »
You mean like supreme court nominees? 
Personally, on this thread, mdot21 is being an unbearable radical conservative and it stinks.
But I'm no one of any consequence.
I was planning on voting for Bernie Sanders until the DNC screwed him over again FYI. But OK.

The term conservative doesn’t mean what you think it does. 

And when has this country/economy ever voluntarily gone on complete lockdown? We are living through something that this country has never been through before in it’s 244 year history. We have no precedent for this. How to handle this is not so black and white.

Disease is a part of life. People dying is a part of life. I’ve had a family member who had this and got better. It’s not as deadly as the media is hyping it up to be. The fatality rate isn’t something insane like Ebola. The actual fatality rate is probably under 1%. I’m not living afraid and locked up in my home forever. This shit has to end and end sooner than later.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1838 on: April 14, 2020, 03:51:45 PM »
No politics please.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1839 on: April 14, 2020, 03:54:59 PM »
Agree on no politics.

Also agree that we're fast approaching the time to open back up.  Early to mid-May will make sense to me for most places, other than hotspots where the rules will need to be different.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1840 on: April 14, 2020, 04:01:04 PM »
The three Pacific states announced their framework to reopen about an hour ago, but did not offer a date.

I'd provide a link to a news story, but can't find any that have given a solid summation yet. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1841 on: April 14, 2020, 04:07:38 PM »
I'm glad they are working together. I think as a part of this, doesn't travel within the country, from certain states, or to certain states, need to be limited? You really don't want people from Detroit or Chicago or Miami flying out to LAX, SFO, PDX or SEA right now, let alone NYC, right?

So, a coordinated effort is really necessary here. That's probably where the Federal government needs to be involved, and only with that.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1842 on: April 14, 2020, 04:12:31 PM »
I think the President should use passive approval with the states

Let them do their thing and only get involved if for any state that waits way beyond reason

Once the first one or two states open up the others will follow in short order

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1843 on: April 14, 2020, 04:13:04 PM »
I'm glad they are working together. I think as a part of this, doesn't travel within the country, from certain states, or to certain states, need to be limited? You really don't want people from Detroit or Chicago or Miami flying out to LAX, SFO, PDX or SEA right now, let alone NYC, right?

So, a coordinated effort is really necessary here. That's probably where the Federal government needs to be involved, and only with that.
Travel isn't banned today. If I wanted to hop on an airplane and fly to Denver tomorrow (I just looked that up as an example since I fly SNA->DEN often for work) there are three nonstop flights on Southwest and a bunch of alternate routings with stops.

There are only two flights out of LaGuardia headed to LAX, one through Houston and one through Denver. But they're there and for sale. 

So that would be even more restrictive than we have right now.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1844 on: April 14, 2020, 04:15:53 PM »
Travel isn't banned today. If I wanted to hop on an airplane and fly to Denver tomorrow (I just looked that up as an example since I fly SNA->DEN often for work) there are three nonstop flights on Southwest and a bunch of alternate routings with stops.

There are only two flights out of LaGuardia headed to LAX, one through Houston and one through Denver. But they're there and for sale.

So that would be even more restrictive than we have right now.
I'm aware of that. It probably should be more restrictive if "we" are going to "open things up", no? In other words, people in CA need to stay in CA, but start to resume a "normal" life again, with precautions in place, of course. Illinois is not ready for that yet, in my opinion. Florida neither.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1845 on: April 14, 2020, 04:36:14 PM »
A lot of what is "shut down" is voluntary anyway.  Restaurants could open, but how many will go out early on?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1846 on: April 14, 2020, 04:42:33 PM »
Retail stores, bars, restaurants, movie theaters, event venues-- all are shut down in most communities and they are a huge portion of the cratering economy.

And I think younger people-- college age kids and young professionals-- would immediately flock back to them.  In a lot of cases they're still meeting in relatively large groups anyway, and never stopped.

My neighbors' kids are in college at Texas Tech, and Arkansas.  When their colleges shut-down and went virtual, they returned home and schooled-from-home for maybe two weeks.  Even then they were constantly leaving to go meet friends and, after those couple weeks, they took off, went back to their apartments on campuses, and are continuing on as before.  No doubt in my mind that as soon as the bars and restaurants and movie theaters and shopping malls reopen, they'll be there.

They're not afraid, on their own behalves, for any number of reasons.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1847 on: April 14, 2020, 04:49:09 PM »
It's almost as if they would all go to the beaches on spring break and party in crowds, which could never happen, they are too sensible.

 

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