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Mdot21

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1134 on: April 04, 2020, 01:53:10 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 04, 2020, 01:38:32 PM
Everything I've read from scientists says this does not have any of the hallmarks of a human engineered virus.  Every "rumor" from nonscientists (nearly) says they think it was bioengineered.
Watch the video. The guy uses nothing but Chinese govt postings and sources to come to his convulsions. Not one time did I imply or say it was human engineered. He doesn’t either in this video. 

The infectious disease lab in Wuhan was doing experiments on bats. Someone at that lab accidentally contaminated herself with fluids from a bat that carried this coronavirus. She is thought to have been patient zero. Everything about her has been scrubbed from govt websites and all articles about her have been scrubbed from the Chinese internet too. It’s a fascinating video that makes a compelling case. Everyone should watch.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1135 on: April 04, 2020, 01:56:46 PM »
Thanx MDoT
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1136 on: April 04, 2020, 01:59:22 PM »
I'm not going to watch some ten minute video that starts out the way that one does.  Cut to the chase.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1137 on: April 04, 2020, 02:01:42 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 04, 2020, 01:53:10 PM
Watch the video. The guy uses nothing but Chinese govt postings and sources to come to his convulsions. Not one time did I imply or say it was human engineered. He doesn’t either in this video.

The infectious disease lab in Wuhan was doing experiments on bats. Someone at that lab accidentally contaminated herself with fluids from a bat that carried this coronavirus. She is thought to have been patient zero. Everything about her has been scrubbed from govt websites and all articles about her have been scrubbed from the Chinese internet too. It’s a fascinating video that makes a compelling case. Everyone should watch. 
Now, not to say this isn't true, but sometimes these things are the lack of evidence used to make belief in a theory STRONGER for its adherents...

"Wait, I can't find anything on this lady. It's almost like she never existed at all."

"Exactly, man, the CCP is covering her up so well that they've removed every trace of her past!" 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1138 on: April 04, 2020, 02:08:28 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 04, 2020, 01:46:31 PM
People are being morons?  Come on, how  can that be possible?  When did you discover this?

Ten percent never get the word.  I would bet ten percent of the US population has not heard anything about the virus.
Seriously Clark.If they live in the woodsor on the streets 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1139 on: April 04, 2020, 02:10:25 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on April 04, 2020, 02:01:42 PM
Now, not to say this isn't true, but sometimes these things are the lack of evidence used to make belief in a theory STRONGER for its adherents...

"Wait, I can't find anything on this lady. It's almost like she never existed at all."

"Exactly, man, the CCP is covering her up so well that they've removed every trace of her past!"
He brought up a good point they could catch her out and about or in this case where ever she is quarantined
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1140 on: April 04, 2020, 02:14:54 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on April 04, 2020, 02:01:42 PM
Now, not to say this isn't true, but sometimes these things are the lack of evidence used to make belief in a theory STRONGER for its adherents...

"Wait, I can't find anything on this lady. It's almost like she never existed at all."

"Exactly, man, the CCP is covering her up so well that they've removed every trace of her past!"
Watch the video. Everyone that currently works at the lab or used to work at the lab- still has their picture and profile up. Everyone except for one woman. 

The government labs own website posted job openings for projects researching new coronavirus in bats in November and then posted another job opening in December saying they’ve discovered a terrible new virus that’s transmissible to humans. 

And another researcher who worked at the lab released a paper he wasn’t suppose to but did anyway- which the CCP took down- but thankfully someone saved it- saying that researchers at the lab were infected with a new coronavirus from bats after being exposed to fluids and self quarantined for 14 days before returning to work. 

You are insanely naive if you think the CCP isn’t covering this entire thing up. Go ahead and trust the Chinese Communist Party’s propoganda if you wish. I for one don’t. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1141 on: April 04, 2020, 02:18:26 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 04, 2020, 02:14:54 PM
Watch the video. Everyone that currently works at the lab or used to work at the lab- still has their picture and profile up. Everyone except for one woman.
I kind of got the idea the professor lady isn't around anymore either
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1142 on: April 04, 2020, 02:21:12 PM »
IHME says 23 days for AZ to peak.

29 for Florida.

16 for Illinois.

15 for Indiana.

23 for Wisconsin.

15 or Ohio.

5 for Michigan.

5 for New York.

4 for New Jersey.

11 for Connecticut.

32 for Texas.


The numbers out of the NE, and particularly NY, are about to get staggering.

Arizona and Florida are projected to have enough beds. Illinois, Minnesota and Wisconsin are projected to have a surplus. Ohio, Texas and California too have massive surpluses.

New York is woefully short on beds, with far less than Illinois and WAY far less than Ohio, California and Texas.

How can a state that went through 9/11 be so woefully underprepared for this? How do Illinois and Ohio have more physical beds than New York?? and Someone needs to ask the governor for an explanation. It's inexcusable. In the meantime, that other Navy hospital ship sitting in California needs to make a beeline for NYC. Like, today.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1143 on: April 04, 2020, 02:23:47 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on April 04, 2020, 01:29:24 PM

I can't imagine why the first state to require government approval to build new healthcare capacity would have a shortage... That makes no sense when you know that good central planning is the best way to ensure we have enough goods and services for all...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_of_need
From the other thread.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1144 on: April 04, 2020, 02:24:43 PM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 04, 2020, 01:12:40 PM

You don't need beds for dead bodies.
Nope, but you need beds to keep people from being dead bodies.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1145 on: April 04, 2020, 02:25:52 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on April 04, 2020, 01:45:17 PM

When the wife had her hip surgery (Nov.), she stayed ON at the hospital.  She had almost the entire 8th floor to herself, I actually did not see another room with a patient in it.  She had a private room (with a great view).  This was the orthopedic floor.  When I'd go down to the cafeteria they didn't seem that crowded.  (They had a McDonald's in the cafeteria area.)  I can see at times hospitals might over build, but Georgia also has the CON regulation.

We're hurting right now because Grady the largest in the state had a water leak that apparently wiped out three floors of ICUs.  Some water leak.  The mayor said all four major hospitals here are using the  full ICU capacity (not beds).

The hospitals today are the size of small colleges.


That's bad news.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1146 on: April 04, 2020, 02:28:10 PM »
What's that ship in NYC harbor doing now?  Admittedly I dont have an hourly update but noticed they have one w beds there now?  Musings of red tape related to finding your way on board was the gist of the story.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1147 on: April 04, 2020, 02:29:40 PM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on April 04, 2020, 02:28:10 PM
What's that ship in NYC harbor doing now?  Admittedly I dont have an hourly update but noticed they have one w beds there now?  Musings of red tape related to finding your way on board was the gist of the story.
You're only going to read about the bad news WRT that ship right now. It will be needed and there will be good news about it. 
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