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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #798 on: March 30, 2020, 09:30:35 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #799 on: March 30, 2020, 09:40:46 PM »
I don't get that, why not the entire state?

it's like they are encouraging the spread, just wanting to control it
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #800 on: March 30, 2020, 09:42:38 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 30, 2020, 09:10:33 PM
Least infected simply means least tested.
There is something to that but it’s also a very isolated state.  Mountains separate communities from each other. It’s a poor state. People here don’t have the means to travel as some others.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #801 on: March 30, 2020, 10:02:58 PM »
Got a lot of use this weekend out of a little fire pit we built in the backyard last summer.  Perfect nights for it. Warm enough that you weren’t cold sitting out there but cool enough that a fire and a light jacket or blanket felt good.

Just sat out there, binge watching Ozark on Netflix while sipping a beer or two.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #802 on: March 30, 2020, 10:34:33 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on March 30, 2020, 07:37:32 PM
Running into that in WV some as well.  It is when one of the least infected states so far.  Apparently flocks of people from NY/NJ are making their way down here staying at camp grounds, shopping at our stores, etc.
On the one hand, I'm sure its a burden. On the other, I was listening to a podcast by a basketball writer who lives in queens and left for Connecticut. He felt it wasn't fair to his 5-year-old daughter to coop her up in a two-bedroom apartment for months on end. And in a free country where someone has the means to pursue space, they'll probably do it. 

(And if they're there, should they leave the stores to y'all and just not eat?)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #803 on: March 30, 2020, 10:39:31 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 30, 2020, 09:15:32 PM
Condescending corksuckers make fun of the hill folk/mid west then come down and pollute the place with them shitty selves.They Love New York - stay there
If I've learned something in living in places of all different sizes and multiple regions, the simple reality is this: folks are folks. Some are jerks, some are not. New Yorkers are no more a monolith than midwesterners. We often paint with a broad brush, but these places are wildly different across pretty piddling distances. A 30 minute drive from where I live takes me to a whole different kind of place. 

Anyway, the urban folks who think they're special are wrong, and they're wrong if they look down on folks from WV or the midwest. But there's plenty of looking down coming the other direction too, like the post above. And in the end, people are people, not special nor magical. And the differences are often played up for one reason or another. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #804 on: March 30, 2020, 11:18:19 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on March 30, 2020, 10:34:33 PM
On the one hand, I'm sure its a burden. On the other, I was listening to a podcast by a basketball writer who lives in queens and left for Connecticut. He felt it wasn't fair to his 5-year-old daughter to coop her up in a two-bedroom apartment for months on end. And in a free country where someone has the means to pursue space, they'll probably do it.

(And if they're there, should they leave the stores to y'all and just not eat?)
Nah, I see that too.  I asked my wife just the other day as our kids were outside playing in our yard, “What do kids in these big cities who live in apartments do?  The playgrounds are closed up. They don’t have yards to play in.”  So, I get that part of it.

With that being said, NY has roughly 10x the population of WV but roughly 180x the number of positive CV cases.  So, it shouldn’t be a big surprise that some locals down this way are less than thrilled to see an influx of New Yorkers making their way to the mountains.  They are making their way down here for their selfish reasons so there’s a tendency for people down here to be critical of it for our own selfish reasons.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #805 on: March 30, 2020, 11:27:17 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on March 30, 2020, 09:17:32 PM
sure bout that?


https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/490159-governor-to-issue-stay-at-home-order-for-south-florida
This is exactly the problem.
Reactive, not proactive.
You counties with 58% of the virus cases, you stay home.
The other parts, with 42% of the cases, do what you want.
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Again, MATH.  It's only a matter of time before the whole state does it.  The waiting (for whatever the hell reason) is what will make it worse WHEN it happens.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #806 on: March 30, 2020, 11:46:04 PM »
I've been enjoying talking w my Dad this week about some of the extended 'sheltered' situations hes had in life, whether that was aboard ship for months or some of his particular tedious stakeout assignments which lasted weeks at a time.  I remember the later.  Where's Dad?  Uh, on a detail in X, back in 3 weeks.  

It's not a get off my lawn story hour but in his words 'it's all of that that makes this an easy, 'temp' (his word for an assignment).   I should note OAM, part of those temps involved playing the old SI college football board game, later known as Bowl Bound, with his fellow agents on assignment.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #807 on: March 31, 2020, 12:23:19 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on March 30, 2020, 10:34:33 PM
On the one hand, I'm sure its a burden. On the other, I was listening to a podcast by a basketball writer who lives in queens and left for Connecticut. He felt it wasn't fair to his 5-year-old daughter to coop her up in a two-bedroom apartment for months on end. And in a free country where someone has the means to pursue space, they'll probably do it.

(And if they're there, should they leave the stores to y'all and just not eat?)
So really-what you are advocating is those who are being asked to shelter in place have every right to disobey? 

I am not even agreeing or disagreeing/ just clarifying. 


so like New York Michigan has a very bad hotspot going on right now and many of those people have second homes in Florida or could escape to Florida but apparently are just not doing that. But the New Yorkers are. Does that make them smarter or better or dumber or what?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #808 on: March 31, 2020, 12:38:47 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on March 31, 2020, 12:23:19 AM
So really-what you are advocating is those who are being asked to shelter in place have every right to disobey? 

I am not even agreeing or disagreeing/ just clarifying. 


so like New York Michigan has a very bad hotspot going on right now and many of those people have second homes in Florida or could escape to Florida but apparently are just not doing that. But the New Yorkers are. Does that make them smarter or better or dumber or what?


Before too long, people who live in Metro Detroit and other wealthy areas of the state will be going to up to their lake houses in Northern and Western Michigan, too. Same story with people from metro Chicago going to Michigan or Northern Wisconsin, or Bostonians going to ME/NH/VT.

The problem is there's no national restrictions and in many cases not even state-wide ones.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #809 on: March 31, 2020, 12:44:00 AM »
Quote from: MichiFan87 on March 31, 2020, 12:38:47 AM
Before too long, people who live in Metro Detroit and other wealthy areas of the state will be going to up to their lake houses in Northern and Western Michigan, too. Same story with people from metro Chicago going to Michigan or Northern Wisconsin, or Bostonians going to ME/NH/VT.

The problem is there's no national restrictions and in many cases not even state-wide ones.
Good point.  And where there are restrictions- not much enforcement. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #810 on: March 31, 2020, 12:45:30 AM »
Northern WI counties are asking folks not to visit, even if they OWN, homes in these locales.   Some of these counties still have zero reported cases. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #811 on: March 31, 2020, 01:07:43 AM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on March 31, 2020, 12:45:30 AM
Northern WI counties are asking folks not to visit, even if they OWN, homes in these locales.  Some of these counties still have zero reported cases.
The county I live in still has zero reported cases but I hold out no hope that will remain the case.
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