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I honestly don’t see how anyone can compare how the US is doing to any other country in the world. There isn’t a country on the planet that has the travel dynamic, both international and domestic, the US has.  The US has more international airports than Japan, S Korea, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand do combined.  The US has 4 of the busiest 10 airports in the world. Our citizens fly at nearly double the rate of the next closest country.

It is the travel hub of the world. Any comparison to any other country falls under apples and oranges to me.

Amen. Not to mention we have the most grotesquely fat, obese, diabetic, heart disease stricken population in the entire world and it’s not remotely close. 99% of deaths have been disgusting fatties with underlying conditions and the very old- with you guessed it- underlying conditions.

Doesn’t affect children at all, and reasonably healthy adults 18-55 are completely fine.

Say what you want about Trump- but he was 1000000% correct when he said the cure can’t be worse than the disease. Wiping out people’s small businesses and livelihoods and shutting down the country and the economy causing a depression that would rival the Great Depression- is NOT A GOOD IDEA. There has been a ridiculous spike in alcohol and drug abuse and suicides- in large part tied to the extreme and excessive ongoing lockdowns that democratic leaders have tried to institute in order to squeeze the economy and the public in order to get the masses to blame everything on the republicans. There has been zero science or reasoning behind much of it. They’ve politicized it and used it as a weapon to hurt the party in power of the federal government, and it’s a god damn shame.

There has been an insane spike in suicide deaths- and MORE SUICIDE DEATHS in the past two months than there have been coronavirus deaths.

We can’t all hide in the basement like that senile old corrupt f***k Biden. Not everyone trades off their political career to enrich themselves to the tune of tens of millions of dollars and can afford to lock themselves in the basement. Sorry senile joe.

Amen. Not to mention we have the most grotesquely fat, obese, diabetic, heart disease stricken population in the entire world and it’s not remotely close. 99% of deaths have been disgusting fatties with underlying conditions and the very old- with you guessed it- underlying conditions.

Doesn’t affect children at all, and reasonably healthy adults 18-55 are completely fine.

Say what you want about Trump- but he was 1000000% correct when he said the cure can’t be worse than the disease. Wiping out people’s small businesses and livelihoods and shutting down the country and the economy causing a depression that would rival the Great Depression- is NOT A GOOD IDEA. There has been a ridiculous spike in alcohol and drug abuse and suicides- in large part tied to the extreme and excessive ongoing lockdowns that democratic leaders have tried to institute in order to squeeze the economy and the public in order to get the masses to blame everything on the republicans. There has been zero science or reasoning behind much of it. They’ve politicized it and used it as a weapon to hurt the party in power of the federal government, and it’s a god damn shame.

There has been an insane spike in suicide deaths- and MORE SUICIDE DEATHS in the past two months than there have been coronavirus deaths.

We can’t all hide in the basement like that senile old corrupt f***k Biden. Not everyone trades off their political career to enrich themselves to the tune of tens of millions of dollars and can afford to lock themselves in the basement. Sorry senile joe.

I find that very hard to believe
are you sure about that
that would be over 45,000 suicides in two months

Amen. Not to mention we have the most grotesquely fat, obese, diabetic, heart disease stricken population in the entire world and it’s not remotely close. 99% of deaths have been disgusting fatties with underlying conditions and the very old- with you guessed it- underlying conditions.

Doesn’t affect children at all, and reasonably healthy adults 18-55 are completely fine.

Say what you want about Trump- but he was 1000000% correct when he said the cure can’t be worse than the disease. Wiping out people’s small businesses and livelihoods and shutting down the country and the economy causing a depression that would rival the Great Depression- is NOT A GOOD IDEA. There has been a ridiculous spike in alcohol and drug abuse and suicides- in large part tied to the extreme and excessive ongoing lockdowns that democratic leaders have tried to institute in order to squeeze the economy and the public in order to get the masses to blame everything on the republicans. There has been zero science or reasoning behind much of it. They’ve politicized it and used it as a weapon to hurt the party in power of the federal government, and it’s a god damn shame.

There has been an insane spike in suicide deaths- and MORE SUICIDE DEATHS in the past two months than there have been coronavirus deaths.

We can’t all hide in the basement like that senile old corrupt f***k Biden. Not everyone trades off their political career to enrich themselves to the tune of tens of millions of dollars and can afford to lock themselves in the basement. Sorry senile joe.

I appreciate your objectivity.

Yes, lots of people kill themselves.

If you want to get really dark (and honest), let's discuss veteran suicides.  They're plentiful every year and no one seems to want to do anything about it. 

Plenty of people want to do something about it, PLENTY.  And some are trying.  It's not clear what can be done about it given most of them are over 50 years old.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/10/09/new-veteran-suicide-numbers-raise-concerns-among-experts-hoping-for-positive-news/

But THIS thread is about COVID.

Yes, lots of people kill themselves.

If you want to get really dark (and honest), let's discuss veteran suicides.  They're plentiful every year and no one seems to want to do anything about it. 

that may be but I dont think its anywhere near that number

We were out today as usual and mask wearing here is pretty high, and mandatory in any building I've entered (including ours).

I do agree that a better example could have been established earlier.

I'd note - again - that European countries are not doing very well at all right now even with a good example having been set.

(The wife had a follow up appt. with her surgeon, it went well.  We walk over to that medical building weekly for PT.  We stopped in Whole Paycheck for a few items on the way back.)

Wearing a mask itself should never have been politicized of course, but explained, clearly, by everyone in any authority.

Now I would like to know what we should be doing differently, right now. Mandates don't work, which we know.

I would like to see 100 percent mask wearing everywhere. It's good here in FL (except in Miami, for some reason), but not in places like North Dakota.