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CWSooner · « **Reply #3500 on:** May 05, 2020, 12:30:00 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on May 05, 2020, 11:57:57 AM

Very interested in the numbers today/tomorrow. The Sun/Mon numbers, per trend, have come in low, and the death numbers were lower than the previous two Sun/Mon periods. I'm of course expecting a spike today/tomorrow, again per weekly trends, but I wonder if they'll continue showing the downtrend.

Overall death numbers in NY have been coming down, which of course is a HUGE portion of the total, and deaths elsewhere have been rising but it appears not as fast as the decline in NY.

We're just a drop in the bucket, but Oklahoma had no reported COVID deaths for Saturday and Sunday. But then we had 9 deaths reported for yesterday.
We've had a lunatic fringe threatening employees for wearing masks. Worst I know of were in Stillwater, home of our state institution of agricultural learning. The city manager responded by rescinding the rules. Courageous fellow.
If the authorities are not going to enforce the rules, or even worse back down from the mob and rescind them, then the rules are going to be increasingly disregarded.

Big Beef Tacosupreme · « **Reply #3501 on:** May 05, 2020, 12:30:35 PM »

Quote from: Riffraft on May 05, 2020, 10:28:01 AM

It is clear that the epidemiologists have no idea what they are talking about. From all the models I have seen produced by them even the best of them has way overshot the what has happened.

I'll settle for one source.

CWSooner · « **Reply #3502 on:** May 05, 2020, 12:33:05 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on May 05, 2020, 12:02:09 PM

imagine hauling blocks of ice up there before refrigeration

You speak as if you have had experience hauling blocks of ice. Am I right?
I wonder if they maybe had a hoist that could lift blocks of ice and other heavy items from outside the building, putting the load through a window on the desired floor.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #3503 on:** May 05, 2020, 12:34:00 PM »

A guy on the radio was talking about NYC without functioning subways. He said the model just collapses, it doesn't work any more.

utee94 · « **Reply #3504 on:** May 05, 2020, 01:27:52 PM »

Quote from: CWSooner on May 05, 2020, 12:33:05 PM

You speak as if you have had experience hauling blocks of ice. Am I right?
I wonder if they maybe had a hoist that could lift blocks of ice and other heavy items from outside the building, putting the load through a window on the desired floor.

In Amsterdam (and probably many other places, I just specifically noticed them whilst touring Amsterdam), a lot of the buildings have hoisting beams built in at the top, so that they can lift heavy items to upper floors. Of course, those items have to fit in through the exterior windows or doors...

FearlessF · « **Reply #3505 on:** May 05, 2020, 01:56:10 PM »

Iowa has had its deadliest 24-hour period since the novel coronavirus was reported in the state March 8 with Gov. Kim Reynolds reporting Tuesday that 19 Iowans have died due to COVID-19.

That brings to 207 the number of Iowa residents who have died from the respiratory virus. Of that total, 95 victims were aged 81 or older even though the that age demographic makes up about 5 percent of the people who have tested positive for the disease. Another 83 victims were in the 61-80 age range, while 24 were between the ages of 41 and 60 and five were in the 18-40 age group.

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doesn't seem like the time to open things up

but, that's just me

utee94 · « **Reply #3506 on:** May 05, 2020, 02:11:45 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on May 05, 2020, 01:56:10 PM

Iowa has had its deadliest 24-hour period since the novel coronavirus was reported in the state March 8 with Gov. Kim Reynolds reporting Tuesday that 19 Iowans have died due to COVID-19.

That brings to 207 the number of Iowa residents who have died from the respiratory virus. Of that total, 95 victims were aged 81 or older even though the that age demographic makes up about 5 percent of the people who have tested positive for the disease. Another 83 victims were in the 61-80 age range, while 24 were between the ages of 41 and 60 and five were in the 18-40 age group.

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doesn't seem like the time to open things up

but, that's just me

Are the hospitals in danger of being overrun?

CWSooner · « **Reply #3507 on:** May 05, 2020, 02:15:09 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on May 05, 2020, 01:27:52 PM

In Amsterdam (and probably many other places, I just specifically noticed them whilst touring Amsterdam), a lot of the buildings have hoisting beams built in at the top, so that they can lift heavy items to upper floors. Of course, those items have to fit in through the exterior windows or doors...

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Seems that I remember movies set in New York in the '60s or earlier would occasionally have some scene about a piano or whatnot being hoisted up into an apartment. I don't remember any permanent beams sticking out like those in the Amsterdam pic, though. I can imagine some temporary set-up on the rooftop.
Which begs the question of how the temporary set-up could be gotten up on the rooftop in the first place.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #3508 on:** May 05, 2020, 02:15:27 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on May 05, 2020, 01:56:10 PM

Iowa has had its deadliest 24-hour period since the novel coronavirus was reported in the state March 8 with Gov. Kim Reynolds reporting Tuesday that 19 Iowans have died due to COVID-19.

That brings to 207 the number of Iowa residents who have died from the respiratory virus. Of that total, 95 victims were aged 81 or older even though the that age demographic makes up about 5 percent of the people who have tested positive for the disease. Another 83 victims were in the 61-80 age range, while 24 were between the ages of 41 and 60 and five were in the 18-40 age group.

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doesn't seem like the time to open things up

but, that's just me

anyone dying of the virus yesterday got it way before the opening up started

847badgerfan · « **Reply #3509 on:** May 05, 2020, 02:37:06 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on May 05, 2020, 01:27:52 PM

In Amsterdam (and probably many other places, I just specifically noticed them whilst touring Amsterdam), a lot of the buildings have hoisting beams built in at the top, so that they can lift heavy items to upper floors. Of course, those items have to fit in through the exterior windows or doors...

Yep, I was just there and saw the same thing. Everywhere.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #3510 on:** May 05, 2020, 02:38:49 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on May 05, 2020, 02:15:27 PM

anyone dying of the virus yesterday got it way before the opening up started

Could have a month, or even two.

CWSooner · « **Reply #3511 on:** May 05, 2020, 02:39:02 PM »

Long ago and far away I read Alistair MacLean's Puppet on a Chain. Seems like somebody ended up hanging from one of those hooks.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #3512 on:** May 05, 2020, 02:53:48 PM »

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-scientists-think-the-novel-coronavirus-developed-naturally-not-in-a-chinese-lab/

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #3513 on:** May 05, 2020, 03:03:39 PM »

Here's a good example of someone who is opening against the rules--which concerns me--but seems to understand that this is still an extreme situation which requires intense caution to try to keep their customers, employees, etc healthy:

https://www.facebook.com/TheBarberHoodCA/posts/1120293624989942

https://laist.com/2020/05/04/barberhood-orange-county-reopens.php

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Wood said police have come a few times to observe how the shop is conducting business, which she categorizes as "utilizing every possible protocol we can think of to safely run a business in the new world."
She said precautions at the shop include: barbers wearing N95 masks which are replaced every few hours, rearranging chairs to comply with distancing rules, customers must wear masks, only the person receiving service is permitted to enter the shop, and "sanitizing between each client."
What about keeping a six foot distance — the precaution most effective in stopping transmission of the virus?
"No, we cannot get six feet away from each other," she said. "We're cutting hair. It's a very close proximity."

She said she also doesn't "condone the shops that are just opening as if nothing ever happened. I think we all have to really take this seriously, and adhere to every possible precaution and protocol we can to keep our community safe."

If people are taking things this seriously, perhaps reopening some things will be okay.

If people do things like that jackass restaurant owner in San Clemente who thinks there's no risk at all on a sunny day, not so much.

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