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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12642 on: February 22, 2021, 04:41:30 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12643 on: February 22, 2021, 04:57:01 PM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on February 22, 2021, 03:18:00 PM
I was surprised the death toll threshold of 500,000 (surpassed last week) isn't getting much more attention and leading the headlines, but I think the tracking website I use is slightly ahead of what our government counts as official. It should be a big talking point when made official, and there should be a lot of talk as to why, why, why (!) the U.S. death toll numbers are so substantially worse than the rest of the world. There are reasons we've delved into in this thread, but where is the heavy lifting going on across the airwaves?


Much has to do with comorbidities, and I also think there has been some over-reporting going on.

I took your list and sorted by deaths per million, for context.


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« Reply #12644 on: February 23, 2021, 12:55:45 AM »
500,000 is a lot to sweep under the rug.
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« Reply #12645 on: February 23, 2021, 05:54:06 AM »
Tell that to the CCP.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12646 on: February 23, 2021, 07:28:27 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 23, 2021, 05:54:06 AM
Tell that to the CCP.
Is that short for Cuo...?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12647 on: February 23, 2021, 07:36:37 AM »
I just got my appointment for vaccine #1 Thursday morning.  Finally.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12649 on: February 23, 2021, 07:50:15 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 23, 2021, 07:36:37 AM
I just got my appointment for vaccine #1 Thursday morning.  Finally.
Congratulations.

By April, supply will exceed demand, and by summer we'll be in pretty good shape. Hopefully in time for Memorial Day.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12650 on: February 23, 2021, 10:31:18 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 22, 2021, 04:57:01 PM
Much has to do with comorbidities, and I also think there has been some over-reporting going on.

I took your list and sorted by deaths per million, for context.


Comorbidities contribute to the high number but shouldn't be written off because comorbidities, much with other diseases, is how Covid kills, in tandem. Even sorting deaths per million, the U.S. is SEVENTH in the world (removing San Marino & Gibraltar). How, given our status when it comes to wealth, global trade leader, high medical technology, expansive middle class, and world's ranked university system, did we fail Covid so badly??? I said this a few pages ago, but as a whole America is a much sicker, more unhealthy nation than we realize. The same parallel goes for UK as well.

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« Reply #12651 on: February 23, 2021, 10:45:41 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on February 23, 2021, 10:31:18 AM

Comorbidities contribute to the high number but shouldn't be written off because comorbidities, much with other diseases, is how Covid kills, in tandem. Even sorting deaths per million, the U.S. is SEVENTH in the world (removing San Marino & Gibraltar). How, given our status when it comes to wealth, global trade leader, high medical technology, expansive middle class, and world's ranked university system, did we fail Covid so badly??? I said this a few pages ago, but as a whole America is a much sicker, more unhealthy nation than we realize. The same parallel goes for UK as well.


I would look toward mobility for some answers. People were coming here from China until the end of January. Then, in March, people came back here in droves from Europe when that travel was closed.

US citizens returning from overseas say they are waiting hours for screening | CNN Travel

Americans travelled interstate throughout the whole thing. "We" move around, a lot.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12652 on: February 23, 2021, 10:54:18 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 22, 2021, 04:57:01 PM
Much has to do with comorbidities, and I also think there has been some over-reporting going on.

I took your list and sorted by deaths per million, for context.
I assumed we had better detection than many, worse control than others. Plus more mobility and a bit of a rebellious streak. 

I'd assume comorbidities would be higher in a lot of countries. Our health system isn't at the top worldwide, but I'd assume in the top tier (even if the job attachment part is wild and weird). 
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« Reply #12653 on: February 23, 2021, 10:56:48 AM »
Lots of people have flocked here from abroad to have surgeries done, and for special treatments.

Gotta be a reason for that.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12654 on: February 23, 2021, 11:07:39 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 23, 2021, 10:56:48 AM
Lots of people have flocked here from abroad to have surgeries done, and for special treatments.

Gotta be a reason for that.
There is, though it doesn't tell a full story. 

I had family who worked in a pretty notable hospital for special treatments and advance surgeries. Lotta well to do folks came thought. 

Downside was it was kinda an administrative mess if you just had something mundane wrong with you. Lots of extra tests and being sure. But yeah, we're generally in good shape on the healthcare front, even with the vestigial system. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12655 on: February 23, 2021, 12:54:25 PM »
Don't forget the HLA type by geo...
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